a portly stout and a stoutly porter?
I went into a brewery a couple years ago and they had a black IPA. I love them so I ordered it. it wasn't an IPA. It was more of a baltic porter, I couldn't even finish it, way to roasty and just bad. The waitress noticed and I told her, she agreed and said most customers were complaining. I told her, this is simple, rename it to baltic porter, change expectations and finish selling it. then don't screw up the next black IPA. I went to same brewery earlier this year, new owner, another black IPA, so I got a taste of it... sigh... so much licorice!