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Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« on: September 06, 2010, 10:39:56 PM »
I went and brewed Fred's LHAP, but subbed homegrown Cascades for the Amarillo.  (Actually, I also subbed domestic 2-row for the Marris Otter.  Didn't want to waste good English malt in case the batch sucked.)  Could be a grassy monster.  What do you think?

Cascade Pale (Homegrown)

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal):         7.00    Wort Size (Gal):    7.00
Total Grain (Lbs):       11.31
Anticipated OG:          1.046    Plato:             11.49
Anticipated SRM:           8.2
Anticipated IBU:          48.9
Brewhouse Efficiency:       80 %
Wort Boil Time:             60    Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate:       2.00    Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size:    9.00    Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity:      1.036    SG          9.01  Plato


Grain/Extract/Sugar

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM
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 70.7     8.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)              America        1.036      2
  9.4     1.06 lbs. Munich Malt                   Germany        1.037      8
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Aromatic Malt                 Belgium        1.036     25
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Flaked Barley                 America        1.032      2
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Crystal 20L                   America        1.035     20
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Crystal 60L                   America        1.034     60

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
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  4.20 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  29.3  15 min.
  6.40 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  17.9  5 min.
  2.80 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00   1.7  1 min.

 

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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 12:26:58 AM »
Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
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  4.20 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  29.3  15 min.
  6.40 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  17.9  5 min.
  2.80 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00   1.7  1 min.

 
Looks tasty, but more crystal than I would use.  Personal preference though.

Are these dried or fresh weights on the hops?  It looks like a lot, but I don't see any 60 minute addition so you did lots of late hops to get the BUs?  <Edit - Oh dur, the title even says "Late hopped".>  What did you use for the AA% on the homegrown hops, just a guess based on what is typical for cascades, did you have them tested, previous experience, or something else?
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 12:28:54 AM by tschmidlin »
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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 12:41:58 AM »
I should make it clear that this is Fred Bonjour's recipe, modified, in case anyone should think I'm Fred. :D
http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/AmarilloPaleAleBeerDuJour

Anyway, the hops were dried.  I took a wild assed guess for 5% AAUs.

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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 06:26:10 AM »
Modify away,
The malt bill is based on a 1st place Amber (Michigan State Fair, may it rest in peace),
The concept is to push the flavor and aroma envelope while maintaining the same bitterness. 

Fred
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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 02:40:41 PM »
Modify away,
The malt bill is based on a 1st place Amber (Michigan State Fair, may it rest in peace),
The concept is to push the flavor and aroma envelope while maintaining the same bitterness. 

Fred

I've brewed the actual recipe before (it has become a house favorite), so I thought I would honor it with homegrown Cascades.

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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2010, 07:48:11 PM »
Well, I thought I should report back on the results of my homegrown experiment. I've never used homegrown hops before, so I was concerned about AAUs, and coming up short in the IBU dept.  Not to worry though!

Dare I say this is one of the best APAs I've ever quaffed?  I dare say it!  "Freshness" is what foremost comes to mind, besides all the usual adjectives like citrusy, grapefruity,...Smooth bitterness at the finish...But, it's the overriding flavor and aroma that stand out.  I can only imagine what this recipe would be like with freshly picked and dried homegrown Amarillo.  The Cascades here are nothing to sneeze at though.  And drinking it from a pils glass...well now, this is my glass of choice for most beers. 

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Re: Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2010, 08:39:49 PM »
Unfortunately homegrown Amarillo is not an option.

Fred
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