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Fred's Late Hopped Amarillo Pale...What Have I Done?

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roguejim:
I went and brewed Fred's LHAP, but subbed homegrown Cascades for the Amarillo.  (Actually, I also subbed domestic 2-row for the Marris Otter.  Didn't want to waste good English malt in case the batch sucked.)  Could be a grassy monster.  What do you think?

Cascade Pale (Homegrown)

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal):         7.00    Wort Size (Gal):    7.00
Total Grain (Lbs):       11.31
Anticipated OG:          1.046    Plato:             11.49
Anticipated SRM:           8.2
Anticipated IBU:          48.9
Brewhouse Efficiency:       80 %
Wort Boil Time:             60    Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate:       2.00    Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size:    9.00    Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity:      1.036    SG          9.01  Plato


Grain/Extract/Sugar

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM
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 70.7     8.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)              America        1.036      2
  9.4     1.06 lbs. Munich Malt                   Germany        1.037      8
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Aromatic Malt                 Belgium        1.036     25
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Flaked Barley                 America        1.032      2
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Crystal 20L                   America        1.035     20
  5.0     0.56 lbs. Crystal 60L                   America        1.034     60

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
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  4.20 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  29.3  15 min.
  6.40 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  17.9  5 min.
  2.80 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00   1.7  1 min.

 

tschmidlin:

--- Quote from: roguejim on September 06, 2010, 10:39:56 PM ---Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
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  4.20 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  29.3  15 min.
  6.40 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00  17.9  5 min.
  2.80 oz.    Cascade                           Whole    5.00   1.7  1 min.

 

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Looks tasty, but more crystal than I would use.  Personal preference though.

Are these dried or fresh weights on the hops?  It looks like a lot, but I don't see any 60 minute addition so you did lots of late hops to get the BUs?  <Edit - Oh dur, the title even says "Late hopped".>  What did you use for the AA% on the homegrown hops, just a guess based on what is typical for cascades, did you have them tested, previous experience, or something else?

roguejim:
I should make it clear that this is Fred Bonjour's recipe, modified, in case anyone should think I'm Fred. :D
http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/AmarilloPaleAleBeerDuJour

Anyway, the hops were dried.  I took a wild assed guess for 5% AAUs.

bonjour:
Modify away,
The malt bill is based on a 1st place Amber (Michigan State Fair, may it rest in peace),
The concept is to push the flavor and aroma envelope while maintaining the same bitterness. 

Fred

roguejim:

--- Quote from: bonjour on September 07, 2010, 06:26:10 AM ---Modify away,
The malt bill is based on a 1st place Amber (Michigan State Fair, may it rest in peace),
The concept is to push the flavor and aroma envelope while maintaining the same bitterness. 

Fred

--- End quote ---

I've brewed the actual recipe before (it has become a house favorite), so I thought I would honor it with homegrown Cascades.

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