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Vienna lager
« on: February 21, 2021, 02:12:57 AM »
I think this may be my new favorite style of beer. Cheers!!

Picked up a growler from a local brewery here and it's just fantastic

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2021, 02:35:22 AM »
Also a fan. I can get Von Trappe in cans which is very nice.
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 02:54:12 AM »
Fun beer to brew too!

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 04:19:06 AM »
Smooth little sweet, got a little spice to it. Damn good beer

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 12:38:17 PM »
Shouldn't have any "spice" ...should be dry with some cracker like malt character and clean/crisp. It's possible thehops may have some herbal like character that are coming across as spicy.

I should clarify that "spice" makes me think of yeast phenolics or actual spices which would be inappropriate for the style,  but obviously that might not be what you mean.
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 02:38:38 PM »
It's very mild. It's an apple orchard here that grows their own hops and I have gotten a little spice note from Perle before on a brew. Regardless it was an enjoyable beer

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 02:51:19 PM »
I'm brewing one today with 838.  My go-to recipe is a version of Jamil's original recipe which is dark and malty.  Today I'm brewing a version from a brewery I visited when I went to see my daughter at school in Indiana.  I reached out to the brewer and he gave me the recipe.  It's unconventional but I'm making it just as he gave it to me.  First time brewing in about a month due to the weather.  It's a balmy 24° now and on its way up to 32°.  WHOO!  :P 
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 02:57:19 PM »
I'm brewing one today with 838.  My go-to recipe is a version of Jamil's original recipe which is dark and malty.  Today I'm brewing a version from a brewery I visited when I went to see my daughter at school in Indiana.  I reached out to the brewer and he gave me the recipe.  It's unconventional but I'm making it just as he gave it to me.  First time brewing in about a month due to the weather.  It's a balmy 24° now and on its way up to 32°.  WHOO! 
My hose bib was frozen yesterday so I had to go buy water! I feel your pain.

Look forward to the pictures

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2021, 03:01:18 PM »
I brewed one 3 weeks ago today. Its been cold crashing for 3 days and I'm going to collect yeast and keg today. Samples have tasted good along the way and I can't wait to drink it after a little conditioning.

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2021, 03:44:59 PM »
I'm brewing one today with 838.  My go-to recipe is a version of Jamil's original recipe which is dark and malty.  Today I'm brewing a version from a brewery I visited when I went to see my daughter at school in Indiana.  I reached out to the brewer and he gave me the recipe.  It's unconventional but I'm making it just as he gave it to me.  First time brewing in about a month due to the weather.  It's a balmy 24° now and on its way up to 32°.  WHOO! 
My hose bib was frozen yesterday so I had to go buy water! I feel your pain.

Look forward to the pictures
The hose I use for chilling has been brought inside just in case it's frozen.  I know my outdoor water source is okay because I filtered water on Friday.  But it *is* cold right now.  At least I know I'll have super cold ground water for chilling.  :D  Cheers.
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2021, 05:46:23 PM »
i think it could end up being a slow-burner style that grows in popularity. its sort of vague in that yes, there is the BJCP "original" vienna lager that has fairly tight numbers and tastes.

but really, it could range from ~4SRM 100% vienna beers, all the way to pretty roasty example with maybe up to 4% chocolate malt even. just keep the crystal down.

the one im making now has no colouring so its about 6 or 7SRM and orange.

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2021, 06:39:38 PM »
i think it could end up being a slow-burner style that grows in popularity. its sort of vague in that yes, there is the BJCP "original" vienna lager that has fairly tight numbers and tastes.

but really, it could range from ~4SRM 100% vienna beers, all the way to pretty roasty example with maybe up to 4% chocolate malt even. just keep the crystal down.

the one im making now has no colouring so its about 6 or 7SRM and orange.
So I am calling the one I'm making today "unconventional" because it contains 10% CaraMunich 1, which I would never do.  That said, the beer served at their brewpub was delicious so I'm giving it a try.  Most of these tend to be a combination of pilsner malt, vienna and munich and then Carafa III for color.  The one I made today will be more pale... maybe SRM 8 or 9. 
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2021, 07:15:41 PM »
i think it could end up being a slow-burner style that grows in popularity. its sort of vague in that yes, there is the BJCP "original" vienna lager that has fairly tight numbers and tastes.

but really, it could range from ~4SRM 100% vienna beers, all the way to pretty roasty example with maybe up to 4% chocolate malt even. just keep the crystal down.

the one im making now has no colouring so its about 6 or 7SRM and orange.
So I am calling the one I'm making today "unconventional" because it contains 10% CaraMunich 1, which I would never do.  That said, the beer served at their brewpub was delicious so I'm giving it a try.  Most of these tend to be a combination of pilsner malt, vienna and munich and then Carafa III for color.  The one I made today will be more pale... maybe SRM 8 or 9.

amber lager vs vienna lager.

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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2021, 09:16:42 PM »
i think it could end up being a slow-burner style that grows in popularity. its sort of vague in that yes, there is the BJCP "original" vienna lager that has fairly tight numbers and tastes.

but really, it could range from ~4SRM 100% vienna beers, all the way to pretty roasty example with maybe up to 4% chocolate malt even. just keep the crystal down.

the one im making now has no colouring so its about 6 or 7SRM and orange.
So I am calling the one I'm making today "unconventional" because it contains 10% CaraMunich 1, which I would never do.  That said, the beer served at their brewpub was delicious so I'm giving it a try.  Most of these tend to be a combination of pilsner malt, vienna and munich and then Carafa III for color.  The one I made today will be more pale... maybe SRM 8 or 9.

amber lager vs vienna lager.
Maybe.  I have been a little too critical of some recipes that I have seen and I'm trying to get around that.  In this case, I had the beer at the brewpub a number of times and it was very good so I feel good about getting a decent beer from this recipe... but is it a Vienna Lager?  A commercial brewer envisioned a Vienna Lager and this was his recipe.  That doesn't make it right but I feel like the finished beer will be very nice. 
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Re: Vienna lager
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2021, 08:53:42 AM »
i think it could end up being a slow-burner style that grows in popularity. its sort of vague in that yes, there is the BJCP "original" vienna lager that has fairly tight numbers and tastes.

but really, it could range from ~4SRM 100% vienna beers, all the way to pretty roasty example with maybe up to 4% chocolate malt even. just keep the crystal down.

the one im making now has no colouring so its about 6 or 7SRM and orange.
So I am calling the one I'm making today "unconventional" because it contains 10% CaraMunich 1, which I would never do.  That said, the beer served at their brewpub was delicious so I'm giving it a try.  Most of these tend to be a combination of pilsner malt, vienna and munich and then Carafa III for color.  The one I made today will be more pale... maybe SRM 8 or 9.

amber lager vs vienna lager.
Maybe.  I have been a little too critical of some recipes that I have seen and I'm trying to get around that.  In this case, I had the beer at the brewpub a number of times and it was very good so I feel good about getting a decent beer from this recipe... but is it a Vienna Lager?  A commercial brewer envisioned a Vienna Lager and this was his recipe.  That doesn't make it right but I feel like the finished beer will be very nice.
If you didn't know the recipe, would you call it a Vienna Lager when you taste it? I always find it odd to name a beer based off the recipe rather than the finished product.
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