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Golden Promise
« on: March 13, 2021, 08:00:23 PM »
My preferred British malt is Pearl.  I have been using this barley for more than two decades.  My LHBS did not have any Pearl in stock, so I picked up a bag of Golden Promise.  I am hoping that Golden Promise is at least as good if not better than Pearl because it costs more than Pearl.  I went through a couple 25kg bags of Maris Otter before I decided that it is not for me. Pearl has more refined flavor than Maris Otter.  Has anyone used all three barley cultivars?

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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2021, 08:45:45 PM »
I use Simpson's Golden Promise for my wee shroomy.  I prefer it to Fawcett.  But remember, that while barley varieties matter, how the maltster treats them matters more.  Simpson and Fawcett both use GP, but the malts have a distinctly different flavors.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2021, 09:17:19 PM »
Sadly, I have Fawcett Golden Promise.  I have used Fawcett Pearl and Fawcett Maris Otter.  Fawcett Maris Otter is not for me.  Hopefully, Fawcett Golden Promise is clean tasting like Fawcett Pearl.  I liked Baird Pale Ale Malt when I could get it, but it is not a single variety.   Do you have a line on the Moravian barley's that are grown for Coors out in Montana?

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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2021, 09:18:28 PM »
Sadly, I have Fawcett Golden Promise.  I have used Fawcett Pearl and Fawcett Maris Otter.  Fawcett Maris Otter is not for me.  Hopefully, Fawcett Golden Promise is clean tasting like Fawcett Pearl.  I liked Baird Pale Ale Malt when I could get it, but it is not a single variety.   Do you have a line on the Moravian barley's that are grown for Coors out in Montana?

No I don't.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2021, 10:04:06 PM »
I too prefer the Simpsons GP. It has a taste that is malty sweet over malty toasty, as compared to Maris Otter. Simpsons ownes the cultivar. GP is the malt in Timothy Taylor Landlord.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2021, 10:32:04 PM »
I too prefer the Simpsons GP. It has a taste that is malty sweet over malty toasty, as compared to Maris Otter. Simpsons ownes the cultivar. GP is the malt in Timothy Taylor Landlord.

To be more specific, Simpson's GP is the malt in Timothy Taylor's Landlord. I fell in love with that beer during a visit to England, and was thrilled when I found that I could get all the ingredients for it at home. It is one of my favorite beers to brew.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2021, 11:33:10 PM »
Well, I am going to work my way through this bag before giving domestic 2-row another shot.  The LHBS closest to me is now stocking Malteurop's Wisconsin Select 2-row product at a reasonable price.  It is not as good as Maryland Homebrew's (MDHB) domestic 2-row price, but the store is few minutes from my house versus a forty-minute ride in both directions. Plus, domestic 2-row at MDHB other from Briess is by special order only.  I am definitely not a fan of Briess 2-row.

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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2021, 03:21:45 PM »
Well, I am going to work my way through this bag before giving domestic 2-row another shot.  The LHBS closest to me is now stocking Malteurop's Wisconsin Select 2-row product at a reasonable price.  It is not as good as Maryland Homebrew's (MDHB) domestic 2-row price, but the store is few minutes from my house versus a forty-minute ride in both directions. Plus, domestic 2-row at MDHB other from Briess is by special order only.  I am definitely not a fan of Briess 2-row.

You could also go to craftmalting.com and look for a retailer of craft malt near you.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2021, 03:54:14 PM »
Well, I am going to work my way through this bag before giving domestic 2-row another shot.  The LHBS closest to me is now stocking Malteurop's Wisconsin Select 2-row product at a reasonable price.  It is not as good as Maryland Homebrew's (MDHB) domestic 2-row price, but the store is few minutes from my house versus a forty-minute ride in both directions. Plus, domestic 2-row at MDHB other from Briess is by special order only.  I am definitely not a fan of Briess 2-row.

You could also go to craftmalting.com and look for a retailer of craft malt near you.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2021, 03:58:53 PM »
Well, I am going to work my way through this bag before giving domestic 2-row another shot.  The LHBS closest to me is now stocking Malteurop's Wisconsin Select 2-row product at a reasonable price.  It is not as good as Maryland Homebrew's (MDHB) domestic 2-row price, but the store is few minutes from my house versus a forty-minute ride in both directions. Plus, domestic 2-row at MDHB other from Briess is by special order only.  I am definitely not a fan of Briess 2-row.

You could also go to craftmalting.com and look for a retailer of craft malt near you.
I never knew about this site, thanks for sharing it. I now have grain for my next few beers on its way.

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Excellent!  I just found out about it when I interviewed the director of the Craft Malt Guild for the podcast.  There's a lot of great info on the site.  The interview will run on Experimental Brewing 129.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2021, 02:53:34 PM »
A friend of mine says too much Golden Promise isn't all that good. He inspired a super simple recipe that came out great! 90% Maris Otter and 10% Golden Promise with about 4oz of EKG and Wyeast 1469

I have a bag of Pearl, going to substitue that for Maris and submit it to NHBC

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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2021, 03:05:18 PM »
A friend of mine says too much Golden Promise isn't all that good. He inspired a super simple recipe that came out great! 90% Maris Otter and 10% Golden Promise with about 4oz of EKG and Wyeast 1469

I have a bag of Pearl, going to substitue that for Maris and submit it to NHBC

OTOH, my wee heavy is 99.9% Simpson GP and is absolutley delicious. 
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2021, 03:19:12 PM »
A friend of mine says too much Golden Promise isn't all that good. He inspired a super simple recipe that came out great! 90% Maris Otter and 10% Golden Promise with about 4oz of EKG and Wyeast 1469

I have a bag of Pearl, going to substitue that for Maris and submit it to NHBC

I disagree with your friend. It depends on the beer you are making. It won't give you the toasty aspect. It has a great malt flavor. It works for something like a TTL Best Bitter.
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2021, 04:05:51 PM »
A friend of mine says too much Golden Promise isn't all that good. He inspired a super simple recipe that came out great! 90% Maris Otter and 10% Golden Promise with about 4oz of EKG and Wyeast 1469

I have a bag of Pearl, going to substitue that for Maris and submit it to NHBC

I disagree with your friend. It depends on the beer you are making. It won't give you the toasty aspect. It has a great malt flavor. It works for something like a TTL Best Bitter.

and whose GP you use, also
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Re: Golden Promise
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2021, 04:18:08 PM »
A friend of mine says too much Golden Promise isn't all that good. He inspired a super simple recipe that came out great! 90% Maris Otter and 10% Golden Promise with about 4oz of EKG and Wyeast 1469

I have a bag of Pearl, going to substitue that for Maris and submit it to NHBC

I disagree with your friend. It depends on the beer you are making. It won't give you the toasty aspect. It has a great malt flavor. It works for something like a TTL Best Bitter.

and whose GP you use, also

Simpson's, it what the LHBS caries. This was a good listen.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5maXJlc2lkZS5mbS9iZWVyYW5kYnJld2luZy9yc3M/episode/MTJiZDk4OGYtNjE3Yi00ZDFhLTk1MWYtMGU1ZmY4M2VlMzM1?ep=14

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