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Offline MattyAHA

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methode champenoise
« on: June 08, 2020, 05:34:44 pm »
is there a practical way a homebrewer can produce a sparkling wine ala methode champenoise? how would you freeze the yeast in the bottle neck? if you are gung ho set on methode champenoise where would you start?
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 05:58:03 pm »
I would start by watching Annie Johnson's presentation (on June 20th):
https://www.homebrewcon.org/session/#24?session-title=méthode-traditionelle:-brewing-in-the-champagne-method

The Maltose Falcons also has a nice write-up on this:
https://www.maltosefalcons.com/tech/methode-champenoise-beer

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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2020, 07:39:35 am »
I would start by watching Annie Johnson's presentation (on June 20th):
https://www.homebrewcon.org/session/#24?session-title=méthode-traditionelle:-brewing-in-the-champagne-method

The Maltose Falcons also has a nice write-up on this:
https://www.maltosefalcons.com/tech/methode-champenoise-beer

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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2020, 10:14:28 am »
i would just use a champagne bottle with Belgian corks/cages that i use for some beers, rather then hammering in those plastic corks with a mallet, im gonna do a few trial runs with everclear and dry ice, the acetone/dry ice rubs me the wrong way even though it probably works better, thanks
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 11:02:07 am »
i would just use a champagne bottle with Belgian corks/cages that i use for some beers, rather then hammering in those plastic corks with a mallet, im gonna do a few trial runs with everclear and dry ice, the acetone/dry ice rubs me the wrong way even though it probably works better, thanks

I assume there's food grade dry ice, but I haven't run across it.
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 04:32:27 pm »
i would just use a champagne bottle with Belgian corks/cages that i use for some beers, rather then hammering in those plastic corks with a mallet, im gonna do a few trial runs with everclear and dry ice, the acetone/dry ice rubs me the wrong way even though it probably works better, thanks

I assume there's food grade dry ice, but I haven't run across it.
there is definitely food grade dry ice, if its from the same stuff we carbonate our beers with i don't see why it would not be food grade, esp when the biggest application is the food/beverage industry
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2020, 08:02:15 am »
i would just use a champagne bottle with Belgian corks/cages that i use for some beers, rather then hammering in those plastic corks with a mallet, im gonna do a few trial runs with everclear and dry ice, the acetone/dry ice rubs me the wrong way even though it probably works better, thanks

I assume there's food grade dry ice, but I haven't run across it.
there is definitely food grade dry ice, if its from the same stuff we carbonate our beers with i don't see why it would not be food grade, esp when the biggest application is the food/beverage industry

The stuff I always bought for fog machines would sometimes have metal shavings in it
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2020, 08:21:48 am »
i would just use a champagne bottle with Belgian corks/cages that i use for some beers, rather then hammering in those plastic corks with a mallet, im gonna do a few trial runs with everclear and dry ice, the acetone/dry ice rubs me the wrong way even though it probably works better, thanks

I assume there's food grade dry ice, but I haven't run across it.
there is definitely food grade dry ice, if its from the same stuff we carbonate our beers with i don't see why it would not be food grade, esp when the biggest application is the food/beverage industry

The stuff I always bought for fog machines would sometimes have metal shavings in it
i am by no means an expert on dry ice and i'm sure there are different grades but i did grow up in the same house as my uncle who ran a ice cream company for 30+ years and i used to help him sometimes and i never seen any foreign objects in it nor was anything left behind once it evaporated
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Re: methode champenoise
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2021, 08:13:21 am »
I don't have anything to add to the discussion of doing methode champenoise at home. However, if you are ever in Pt. Reyes Station, CA (north of SF on the coast), there is a place called Heidrun Meadery that does strictly methode champenoise mead with different varietal honeys. They have a nice location and do tastings and tours. If you are in the area, I recommend it.