I wanted to order a full palette of NCM back a few months and they wanted 750 clams to ship it to Las Cruces, NM. Now I go through my local brewpub and can get any Briess product by the sack for 25 bucks. I'm happy with that being there is no HB shop in town. Just a quasi shop that is really a pool and spa place. I get yeast from there during the hot months and that's about all.