[majorvices]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

[denny]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

I would love to see a blind triangle on flavor from I'M.  I have never heard anyone else claim that and I certainly don't notice it.  Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[majorvices]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

I would love to see a blind triangle on flavor from I'M.  I have never heard anyone else claim that and I certainly don't notice it.  Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I'm sure you have to over use it to really taste it, which I have heard reports of. I'm not trying to cause anyone to stop using it  -- IM is used in all kinds of things. I stopped using it because I ran out and never noticed a difference in the finished beer as far as clarity goes.

As long as we are down this road of unsubstantiated claims though, I have heard some professional brewers say they get heart burn with beers that use silicic acid. 'Course I still use Biofine Clear.

[denny]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

I would love to see a blind triangle on flavor from I'M.  I have never heard anyone else claim that and I certainly don't notice it.  Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I'm sure you have to over use it to really taste it, which I have heard reports of. I'm not trying to cause anyone to stop using it  -- IM is used in all kinds of things. I stopped using it because I ran out and never noticed a difference in the finished beer as far as clarity goes.

As long as we are down this road of unsubstantiated claims though, I have heard some professional brewers say they get heart burn with beers that use silicic acid. 'Course I still use Biofine Clear.

I think I can tell a difference when I forget it, but that's also untested.

[majorvices]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

I would love to see a blind triangle on flavor from I'M.  I have never heard anyone else claim that and I certainly don't notice it.  Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I'm sure you have to over use it to really taste it, which I have heard reports of. I'm not trying to cause anyone to stop using it  -- IM is used in all kinds of things. I stopped using it because I ran out and never noticed a difference in the finished beer as far as clarity goes.

As long as we are down this road of unsubstantiated claims though, I have heard some professional brewers say they get heart burn with beers that use silicic acid. 'Course I still use Biofine Clear.

I think I can tell a difference when I forget it, but that's also untested.

Meaning ... it tastes better when you forget? j/k

[majorvices]

Once years ago I did a side by side batch that I posted (on this forum or it may have been over on NB) of one hydrometer flask from a batch boiled with IM and one not boiled with IM from the exact same mash. The one with IM was clearer in the flask for sure. But still, I haven't noticed a difference in beers I want to get clear and fine in the fermenter or keg cold side. That said, it may help beers clear that are not fined cold side.

[denny]

I'm still pretty confident that neither IM or gelatin are not reinheitsgebot compliant. I could be wrong! But I'm not wrong about not needing IM. While it it only subjective evidence I feel like my beers taste better without it. Plus I always forget anyway!

I would love to see a blind triangle on flavor from I'M.  I have never heard anyone else claim that and I certainly don't notice it.  Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I'm sure you have to over use it to really taste it, which I have heard reports of. I'm not trying to cause anyone to stop using it  -- IM is used in all kinds of things. I stopped using it because I ran out and never noticed a difference in the finished beer as far as clarity goes.

As long as we are down this road of unsubstantiated claims though, I have heard some professional brewers say they get heart burn with beers that use silicic acid. 'Course I still use Biofine Clear.

I think I can tell a difference when I forget it, but that's also untested.

Meaning ... it tastes better when you forget? j/k

Who knows?  But I was referring to clarity.  But I've never split a batch so maybe those would have been cloudy anyway.