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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2021, 03:10:35 PM »
 I must be a dinosaur. I'm still using ProMash. I've customized it so that it gives me reliable, repeatable results. On the other hand, I just upped my water game by buying the latest version of BrunWater. One foot in both worlds I guess.

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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2021, 03:13:18 PM »
I must be a dinosaur. I'm still using ProMash. I've customized it so that it gives me reliable, repeatable results. On the other hand, I just upped my water game by buying the latest version of BrunWater. One foot in both worlds I guess.

You're not the only one still on Promash,  although I'm gradually switching over to the GF app to use mIBUs.
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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2021, 03:29:21 PM »
I must be a dinosaur. I'm still using ProMash. I've customized it so that it gives me reliable, repeatable results. On the other hand, I just upped my water game by buying the latest version of BrunWater. One foot in both worlds I guess.

You're not the only one still on Promash,  although I'm gradually switching over to the GF app to use mIBUs.
What are mIBUs?

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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2021, 03:52:25 PM »
MIBUs are a new way of calculating IBUs that is taking more things into account.  Denny and Drew interviewed the developers recently - very interesting and complicated -  my expression above is about as technical as I will get on the subject!
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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2021, 04:16:07 PM »
MIBUs are a new way of calculating IBUs that is taking more things into account.  Denny and Drew interviewed the developers recently - very interesting and complicated -  my expression above is about as technical as I will get on the subject!
Modern hop calcs are the one place where ProMash comes up short. I have several recipes where there are no boil additions whatsoever, but multiple heavy whirlpool additions, and I'm getting 30 to 40 IBUs easily (when compared to a  commercial example of known value). ProMash calculates any addition after flame out as zero, and we all know that alpha acids continue to isomerize at temps as low as 190F (or lower).
Did Denny and Drew include this interview in one of their podcasts?

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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2021, 04:22:55 PM »
Yes, the guys are technical techies for GF.  Very intelligent and articulate.  I followed what they said but it was like a calculus class and I am decades removed from such, so my head spun a bit.
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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2021, 04:39:39 PM »
Same here. That's why I love brewing calculators!

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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2021, 05:28:36 PM »
Yes, the guys are technical techies for GF.  Very intelligent and articulate.  I followed what they said but it was like a calculus class and I am decades removed from such, so my head spun a bit.

Yeah, me, too.  As I said in the interview, I'm glad I don't have to understand it to use it.  It actually came from a homebrewer in PDX, J.P. Hosom.

https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcast/episode-130-new-way-figure-out-hops

https://grainfather.com/maximum-international-bitterness-units-in-beer/

https://alchemyoverlord.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/an-on-line-calculator-for-the-mibu-technique/

https://jphosom.github.io/alchemyoverlord/ibu_mIBU.html
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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2021, 06:08:44 PM »
Thanks Denny!

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BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2021, 06:22:43 PM »
..., I'm glad I don't have to understand it to use it.  ...

That’s the way I feel about most things in brewing ...and life for that matter. 
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Re: BeerSmith vs Brewfather
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2021, 07:08:01 PM »
..., I'm glad I don't have to understand it to use it.  ...

That’s the way I feel about most things in brewing ...and life for that matter. 

Amen, brother!
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