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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2021, 09:54:08 pm »
some links to read

https://www.medvetforpets.com/hops-toxicity-dog/

https://www.aspca.org/news/dogs-beer-getting-bottom-hops-toxicity

https://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/hops/

I will pass these on to my neighbor. I have let them know before and he didn't seem concerned. Ironically, he started a small hop growing venture 2 years ago.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2021, 10:22:17 pm »
   My understanding is the hops can potentially be harmful to cattle, so no mash hopping if someone is going to feed your spent grain to their livestock, but  are we not "consuming" hops every time we pop a cap on almost any beer we brew??

Yes. farmer don't like it when you dump your spent hops in the spent grain.
A local brewpub sends their spent grain to a worm farmer who insists that the barley be organically grown.  He said that he used to get spent grain from a local regional brewery that didn't use organic malt and it killed all his worms.  I'm a little skeptical of that claim.

I can't speak for the farmer but when I have nothing actively growing in my garden I load every bit of tilled soil I have with spent grain and hops. I have many happy worms!! As for hops being toxic to dogs, all I can say about that is my neighbors Golden Retriever has been seen eating from my dump piles on more than 1 occasion and he is doing well.

I had a dog get really, really sick from eating from my pile of spent grains. I don't think it had anything to do with hops but whatever was growing on that grain. I had to fence my pile so he couldn't get to it.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2021, 10:22:23 pm »
some links to read

https://www.medvetforpets.com/hops-toxicity-dog/

https://www.aspca.org/news/dogs-beer-getting-bottom-hops-toxicity

https://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/hops/

I will pass these on to my neighbor. I have let them know before and he didn't seem concerned. Ironically, he started a small hop growing venture 2 years ago.

Thanks!

Dogs don't care about unused hops. They're only interested after they're soaked with wort.
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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2021, 11:40:32 pm »
some links to read

https://www.medvetforpets.com/hops-toxicity-dog/

https://www.aspca.org/news/dogs-beer-getting-bottom-hops-toxicity

https://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/hops/

I will pass these on to my neighbor. I have let them know before and he didn't seem concerned. Ironically, he started a small hop growing venture 2 years ago.

Thanks!

Dogs don't care about unused hops. They're only interested after they're soaked with wort.

I didn't  read your links, but i remember gray hounds and whippets being the most susceptible.
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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2021, 02:39:39 am »
some links to read

https://www.medvetforpets.com/hops-toxicity-dog/

https://www.aspca.org/news/dogs-beer-getting-bottom-hops-toxicity

https://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/poison/hops/

I will pass these on to my neighbor. I have let them know before and he didn't seem concerned. Ironically, he started a small hop growing venture 2 years ago.

Thanks!

Dogs don't care about unused hops. They're only interested after they're soaked with wort.

I didn't  read your links, but i remember gray hounds and whippets being the most susceptible.
Goldens are at higher risk as well. Cats can get sick from hops too. I know a buddy of mine had a cat get sick right after a brew day and he hadn't realized that hops could have been the cause.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2021, 02:46:50 am »
Aren't hops toxic if consumed?

I don't think so for humans. Pickled hop shoots are a food item but I couldn't see wanting to eat hop cones and they don't seem like they would taste great beyond the lupulin.
Tried one fresh off the bine once. The bitterness sticks to your mouth for hours. Made green flash taste like a nice amber ale in comparison.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2021, 12:22:58 pm »
Aren't hops toxic if consumed?

I don't think so for humans. Pickled hop shoots are a food item but I couldn't see wanting to eat hop cones and they don't seem like they would taste great beyond the lupulin.
Tried one fresh off the bine once. The bitterness sticks to your mouth for hours. Made green flash taste like a nice amber ale in comparison.

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Yep. I know hops shoots are eaten pickled and in salads and sauteed and such but the flowers would be challenging at best to get down even if they are not toxic.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2021, 03:36:36 pm »
   My understanding is the hops can potentially be harmful to cattle, so no mash hopping if someone is going to feed your spent grain to their livestock, but  are we not "consuming" hops every time we pop a cap on almost any beer we brew??

Yes. farmer don't like it when you dump your spent hops in the spent grain.
A local brewpub sends their spent grain to a worm farmer who insists that the barley be organically grown.  He said that he used to get spent grain from a local regional brewery that didn't use organic malt and it killed all his worms.  I'm a little skeptical of that claim.

I can't speak for the farmer but when I have nothing actively growing in my garden I load every bit of tilled soil I have with spent grain and hops. I have many happy worms!! As for hops being toxic to dogs, all I can say about that is my neighbors Golden Retriever has been seen eating from my dump piles on more than 1 occasion and he is doing well.

I had a dog get really, really sick from eating from my pile of spent grains. I don't think it had anything to do with hops but whatever was growing on that grain. I had to fence my pile so he couldn't get to it.

    If they'd been laying there for a couple days or longer it may well have been mold.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2021, 09:08:18 pm »
Yeah, mold and whatever else was gowing on that. Ergot? lol I swear to god he was tripping. His pupils wee HUGE. Squirting diarrhea all over too ... :o I had to bring him to the vet and the vet cleared it up. Neighther of us knew what it was then I caught him going back to that rotten grain pile and it happened all over again.

If it hadn't of been for the squirts I may have tried it myself because that dog was seeing Doggy Jesus for sure.

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Re: Homebrew pre 1978 stories?
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2021, 03:03:15 pm »
   Contributing to the delinquency of a canine?