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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2010, 11:46:12 am »
The one that bugs me is "anyways" instead of just saying "anyway".  Seriously annoying.
I've had this discussion before, maybe not here. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about "anyways," or for that matter, "anywise." It's that the modern usage is typically incorrect.
Either way (or is it either ways?) it hurts my ears. :)

And another thing, what is with these US politicians saying "take a decision"?  Since when did we start taking decisions instead of making decisions?
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2010, 11:47:29 am »
In  S.C. we have different sayings related to distance. I guess other areas of the country do also.

There is a great difference in:
 
 "Down the road"
 "Down the road aways"
 "Right down the road"
 "Over there"
 "Right near by"
 "A good ways off."
 "A good bit away"
 "back over that way"
 "right over the hill"
 "Over yonder" (this is the one that drives the half-back Yankees crazy the most and hence, is the one used most often)


 All of these are very precise measurements of distance and travel time.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2010, 11:52:55 am »
My favorite Southernism that I use sometimes to irritate the English teachers is my family is "fixin' ta" as in "I'm fixin' ta go to the store. Need anything?"

The absolute best for causing the little jumpy eyelid tic is to combine it with "made" as in "I'm fixin' ta get my picture made"
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2010, 12:47:15 pm »

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anyways

I've had this discussion before, maybe not here. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about "anyways," or for that matter, "anywise." It's that the modern usage is typically incorrect. Although it's interesting to note that it's been thusly abused for an absurdly long time. Which really makes you wonder about just how elastic language should be if we've been collectively using a word "incorrectly" for centuries.

Interesting write-up here if you're interested in stuffy grammarian foofaraw: http://maddy06.blogspot.com/2007/03/anyways.html

Well, there goes my theory that grammar teachers are trying to stagnate the natural evolution of language.  They didn't totally drop the ball though, as we are still studying 500 year old plays in high school English class.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #79 on: September 15, 2010, 01:01:49 pm »
My favorite Southernism that I use sometimes to irritate the English teachers is my family is "fixin' ta" as in "I'm fixin' ta go to the store. Need anything?"

The absolute best for causing the little jumpy eyelid tic is to combine it with "made" as in "I'm fixin' ta get my picture made"

 True story...

  A few weeks ago in a conversation with my cousin I heard this; true story.

 "She shook me awake and I hear'd something up and under the house. I grabbed my pistol and looked about and there was a ol' tom cat. I holler'd at him and he ran and clem'd that there pecan tree. I stood up and under him and said "you better git, 'cause I'm fixin' to put one in your ass.

Welcome to a South Carolina high school graduate's conversation.

 I don't know how much else is wrong.

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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #80 on: September 15, 2010, 01:51:47 pm »
The one that bugs me is "anyways" instead of just saying "anyway".  Seriously annoying.
I've had this discussion before, maybe not here. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about "anyways," or for that matter, "anywise." It's that the modern usage is typically incorrect.
Either way (or is it either ways?) it hurts my ears. :)

And another thing, what is with these US politicians saying "take a decision"?  Since when did we start taking decisions instead of making decisions?

Im alright with anyways, wont use it but it is OK,. Now "anywho" on the other hand, that just makes me want to punch someone in the face. Doesnt even have to be the person who said it, just anyone within arms length.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #81 on: September 15, 2010, 02:45:49 pm »
Im alright with anyways, wont use it but it is OK,. Now "anywho" on the other hand, that just makes me want to punch someone in the face. Doesnt even have to be the person who said it, just anyone within arms length.
I'm with you on that one. :)
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2010, 02:59:15 pm »
And another thing, what is with these US politicians saying "take a decision"?  Since when did we start taking decisions instead of making decisions?

I haven't heard that one. But then again, I stopped listening to politicians after Perot lost.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #83 on: September 15, 2010, 03:00:14 pm »
Around here almost everyone says wooder instead of water. Oh man I hate that, I have to say water every time I hear someone say it that-a-way.

And what is it with people saying libary, I hate that one too. Its library.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #84 on: September 15, 2010, 07:12:40 pm »
There's a lot of "supposably" around here. But when I tell people I'm from Baltimore, I get a 2-second quizzical look before they brighten up and say, "Oh! Bal-Ti-More!" like they just figured out the secret to cold fusion.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #85 on: September 15, 2010, 08:01:18 pm »
Arent you near Princeton though? Those people practically have a British accent.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2010, 08:11:37 pm »
Relatively, but this is definitely not the Princeton suburbs. Plus, I live in the "ghetto" part of Bridgewater. God how that makes me laugh every time I hear it - And I do hear it. A lot. From people who actually mean it.
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Re: Why Grammar is Important
« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2010, 10:00:18 pm »
There's a lot of "supposably" around here. But when I tell people I'm from Baltimore, I get a 2-second quizzical look before they brighten up and say, "Oh! Bal-Ti-More!" like they just figured out the secret to cold fusion.
Yeah, because you probably pronounce Baltimore "Ballmer"
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« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2010, 10:40:44 pm »
There's a lot of "supposably" around here. But when I tell people I'm from Baltimore, I get a 2-second quizzical look before they brighten up and say, "Oh! Bal-Ti-More!" like they just figured out the secret to cold fusion.
Yeah, because you probably pronounce Baltimore "Ballmer"

Actually more like "Bawldemor" - I don't have much of an accent. Confused the hell out of me when I watched that damn Lord of the Rings movie, though.
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« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2010, 11:35:22 pm »
Yeah, because you probably pronounce Baltimore "Ballmer"

Actually more like "Bawldemor" - I don't have much of an accent. Confused the hell out of me when I watched that damn Lord of the Rings movie, though.
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A buddy of mine from "Sollsbree" (Salisbury) always called it "Ballmer"
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