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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2022, 01:12:55 pm »
Usually the packaging date is 6 months prior to the "best if used by date".

I would use both packages and then harvest the slurry and re-pitch or build new starters from the slurry for subsequent batches.

YMMV.  Cheers.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2022, 01:48:05 pm »
Received 2 pouches of Wyeast 1469 yeast, "Best if used by 30 June 2022".
Only second time using liquid yeast, not creating a starter.
I would rather pitch two to be on the safe side, if necessary.

How old is the yeast ?
Is one pouch enough for 4.5 - 5 Gallons, est ABV 4.5 - 5%,  @ 64 F ?

Thanks

I always pitch one, no starter, for that volume and gravity
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2022, 03:07:41 pm »
Received 2 pouches of Wyeast 1469 yeast, "Best if used by 30 June 2022".
Only second time using liquid yeast, not creating a starter.
I would rather pitch two to be on the safe side, if necessary.

How old is the yeast ?
Is one pouch enough for 4.5 - 5 Gallons, est ABV 4.5 - 5%,  @ 64 F ?

Thanks

I always pitch one, no starter, for that volume and gravity

Clarifying, that is my standard operating procedure, as well, so I would agree with Denny - one Wyeast smack pack is sufficient.  However, if the second pouch is just going to sit there unused, then pitch it in.  If you will be using the second pouch before the "best by" date, then I would go with just one pouch at this point (it is as fresh as I have seen with a December packaging date....)  Generally, I repitch, so I don't use much yeast just once.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2022, 02:22:37 am »
Thanks !

One will be used, another batch will be brewed within 4 weeks.
I've read liquid yeast is produced 6 months prior, seen nothing written in stone, or haven't looked hard enough.
1469 was ordered from https://www.keystonehomebrew.com/product/wyeast-west-yorkshire-ale-yeast-1469-vss/

I can easily see the benefits of harvesting and re-pitching liquid yeast, just not for me at this time.
Looked again to be sure, it is 30 JUN 2022.

Thanks again
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2022, 08:13:00 am »
Thanks !

One will be used, another batch will be brewed within 4 weeks.
I've read liquid yeast is produced 6 months prior, seen nothing written in stone, or haven't looked hard enough.
1469 was ordered from https://www.keystonehomebrew.com/product/wyeast-west-yorkshire-ale-yeast-1469-vss/

I can easily see the benefits of harvesting and re-pitching liquid yeast, just not for me at this time.
Looked again to be sure, it is 30 JUN 2022.

Thanks again

I can tell you that at least as far as Wyeast is concerned, that's not necessarily the case.
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2022, 02:22:02 am »
The other pack of 1469 was on standby.
Air lock activity started within 24 hours, no foam monster yet.
Current beer temp @ 68f.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2022, 08:00:37 am »
Thanks !

One will be used, another batch will be brewed within 4 weeks.
I've read liquid yeast is produced 6 months prior, seen nothing written in stone, or haven't looked hard enough.
1469 was ordered from https://www.keystonehomebrew.com/product/wyeast-west-yorkshire-ale-yeast-1469-vss/

I can easily see the benefits of harvesting and re-pitching liquid yeast, just not for me at this time.
Looked again to be sure, it is 30 JUN 2022.

Thanks again


I can tell you that at least as far as Wyeast is concerned, that's not necessarily the case.
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Denny, does this mean 6 months before "best before" date is not the packaged date? I have been backing up from "BB"  date to enter into calculators for pitch rates.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2022, 08:05:32 am »
Thanks !

One will be used, another batch will be brewed within 4 weeks.
I've read liquid yeast is produced 6 months prior, seen nothing written in stone, or haven't looked hard enough.
1469 was ordered from https://www.keystonehomebrew.com/product/wyeast-west-yorkshire-ale-yeast-1469-vss/

I can easily see the benefits of harvesting and re-pitching liquid yeast, just not for me at this time.
Looked again to be sure, it is 30 JUN 2022.

Thanks again


I can tell you that at least as far as Wyeast is concerned, that's not necessarily the case.

Denny, does this mean 6 months before "best before" date is not the packaged date? I have been backing up from "BB"  date to enter into calculators for pitch rates.
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No, you are correct.  Sorry, I misread it.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2022, 10:46:49 am »
Thanks, :)
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2022, 07:16:55 am »
Didn't get that foam monster as seen in Timothy Taylor video, or from others.
Fermentation was normal like any others brewed, and started within 24 hours.
Should two smack packs been pitched ?

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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2022, 09:53:34 am »
I don’t think you had a problem, so don’t worry much about finding the solution.  Yeast replicates quickly enough that the single pitch batch might finish nearly as fast as an overpitched batch.  I doubt that pitch rate had much to do with krausen  thickness.  If it turns out good, you will have your answer!
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2022, 01:31:01 pm »
Didn't get that foam monster as seen in Timothy Taylor video, or from others.
Fermentation was normal like any others brewed, and started within 24 hours.
Should two smack packs been pitched ?

Was your fermentation open or otherwise well aerated?  I got an absolutely huge head when I did an open ferment with Ringwood in a square fermenter, and none of the dreaded diacetyl.  These yeasts love oxygen.

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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2022, 02:06:25 pm »
Didn't get that foam monster as seen in Timothy Taylor video, or from others.
Fermentation was normal like any others brewed, and started within 24 hours.
Should two smack packs been pitched ?

Was your fermentation open or otherwise well aerated?  I got an absolutely huge head when I did an open ferment with Ringwood in a square fermenter, and none of the dreaded diacetyl.  These yeasts love oxygen.

No open fermentation, aerated the best I could.
Square fermenter ?
How long do you leave the fermenter open ?

I use a 5.3 gal speidel fermenter, I wonder if I could just leave the stopper off for a couple of days.
Next brew planned is with 1469 also.
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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2022, 02:32:49 pm »
Didn't get that foam monster as seen in Timothy Taylor video, or from others.
Fermentation was normal like any others brewed, and started within 24 hours.
Should two smack packs been pitched ?

Was your fermentation open or otherwise well aerated?  I got an absolutely huge head when I did an open ferment with Ringwood in a square fermenter, and none of the dreaded diacetyl.  These yeasts love oxygen.

No open fermentation, aerated the best I could.
Square fermenter ?
How long do you leave the fermenter open ?

I use a 5.3 gal speidel fermenter, I wonder if I could just leave the stopper off for a couple of days.
Next brew planned is with 1469 also.

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It was a vittles vault I originally bought for Belgian beers.  I left the top off for 4 days I think, and just put a grain bag mesh over the top to keep anything big out.

I'm not saying this is necessary but they often aerate DURING fermentation with these yeasts.  If you aren't pleased with the beer, it's something to consider.

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Re: Wyeast 1469 (a.k.a. Timothy Taylor)
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2022, 02:36:54 pm »
Didn't get that foam monster as seen in Timothy Taylor video, or from others.
Fermentation was normal like any others brewed, and started within 24 hours.
Should two smack packs been pitched ?

Was your fermentation open or otherwise well aerated?  I got an absolutely huge head when I did an open ferment with Ringwood in a square fermenter, and none of the dreaded diacetyl.  These yeasts love oxygen.

No open fermentation, aerated the best I could.
Square fermenter ?
How long do you leave the fermenter open ?

I use a 5.3 gal speidel fermenter, I wonder if I could just leave the stopper off for a couple of days.
Next brew planned is with 1469 also.

https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=35050&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoY-PBhCNARIsABcz772ptsnuq5vQ5hEzqd19f4ehCLze81a_Uw9aCtPyH24dBFWlF8AymH0aArhDEALw_wcB

It was a vittles vault I originally bought for Belgian beers.  I left the top off for 4 days I think, and just put a grain bag mesh over the top to keep anything big out.

I'm not saying this is necessary but they often aerate DURING fermentation with these yeasts.  If you aren't pleased with the beer, it's something to consider.

I'm game. Next batch I'll leave the top off for a couple of days, and cover with mesh bag.
How did you aerate ?
Next batch is almost identical to previous one, let's see what happens.
Thanks, never considered doing this.
 
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