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Offline brewthru

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Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« on: December 02, 2021, 04:52:30 am »
When using a ceiling joist for weight I know it’s best to avoid a single lifting point.

Therefore, is it best to use a board (piece of wood) on the single joist and then attach the hoist to the board (thereby spreading out the lifting point among the board).

Or, it is better for the board to run between 2 different ceiling joists and then attach the hoist to the board (thereby spreading out the lifting point among the board and the 2 different ceiling joists)?

Thanks.

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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2021, 07:43:38 am »
Many questions with little detail.  First, are you referring to an actual joist or the bottom horizontal beam of a truss?  There is a big difference.  Second, what kind of weight will you be lifting?  Third, when you say “ceiling” are you referring to the underside of a floor joist?  In which case the span of the joist and cross bracing between the joists should be considered before adding weight to the underside.

So, if you’re referring to a truss, I would not recommend using the bottom of a truss as a lifting point for anything over 30-40 pounds from a single truss and that is highly dependent on the type of truss and method in which it was constructed.  Trusses are engineered to take weight from the top, not the bottom.

My response may seem a little extreme. But I’ve seen structural collapses due to improper hoisting.
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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2021, 07:49:43 am »
House basement ceiling joists.

Want for lifting/positioning filled 5 gallon corney keg into keezer.

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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2021, 08:14:30 am »
House basement ceiling joists.

Want for lifting/positioning filled 5 gallon corney keg into keezer.

A 5 gal. keg weighs less than 45 lb.  Doesn't seem like a big deal either way.
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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2021, 09:17:06 am »
House basement ceiling joists.

That would be a floor joist, in most cases, so meant to bear significant weight. The weight of a full corny keg would be fine.
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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 09:23:10 am »
I needed to beef up a 2x6 ceiling joist that ran into the garage to hang something off of.  I took another 2x6 and ran it from on sill plate the the other, in a sense, making it two 2x6's if that makes sense.  I saw on Youtube a guy used an aluminum ladder and rigged up a hoist system.  Maybe you can put the ladder over the keezer and do it that way?  I don't know, but at the very least I would figure out a way to beef up that joist if you can. 

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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 09:26:13 am »
House basement ceiling joists.

Want for lifting/positioning filled 5 gallon corney keg into keezer.

Of course you can enlist a friend or two to help, and then have a beer or two and marvel at your accomplishment.  LOL.  That was meant as a joke, but maybe you can get a friend or two to help you.  If you are near the San Francisco area, I would help ya out for a cold one.  RR

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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2021, 10:10:33 am »
House basement ceiling joists.

Want for lifting/positioning filled 5 gallon corney keg into keezer.

A 5 gal. keg weighs less than 45 lb.  Doesn't seem like a big deal either way.

Agreed. Not much weight at all.
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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2021, 11:48:01 am »
I agree, not much weight, but with 2 possible hernated discs (definately 1 hernated disc) in my lower back I'm taking no chances.

I did see the "Keg Hoist" on page 40 of the Jan/Feb 2020 Zymurgy magazine. Giving me ideas...
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Re: Ceiling Joist and Hoist for lifting recommendations
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 09:10:15 am »
I agree, not much weight, but with 2 possible hernated discs (definately 1 hernated disc) in my lower back I'm taking no changes.

I did see the "Keg Hoist" on page 40 of the Jan/Feb 2020 Zymurgy magazine. Giving me ideas...

I hear ya, I have a bulging/slipped disc in my lower back and when it acts up it ain't no fun at all.   Take a look on Youtube, I saw a guy that put together a system using an aluminum ladder, rope, clamps and a wratcheting system.  Looked pretty cool.