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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2022, 12:01:55 pm »
I was going to ask about different styles and options for the IPA type of beer.  Like I said, I am torn between buying the individual ingredients and trying my hand at that, or buying a kit from Austin Home Brew and having everything, including the yeast options already picked out.  So, I guess I am going to ask, which yeast (dry or Liquid) would you all use for an IPA in the family of Blind Pig? 

I myself do not brew IPAs very often, and I usually use dry yeast.  IF I were to experiment more with liquid yeasts in an IPA, I would probably select an English yeast at random to see what it does.  The English yeasts -- not always, but generally -- produce more interesting esters than American yeast like 1056 and WLP001.  You can't go wrong with the last two, but... you might get something more interesting and unique from any of the English/British strains.  Or even the Belgians, if you are so inclined.

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2022, 12:02:26 pm »
Are you all telling me that if the OP used US-05, an incredibly reliable yeast for fermentation, that he would be able to pick out "peach" through the hops?  I'm quite certain I wouldn't be able to.
Caveats: I have never had Blind Pig and have only rarely used US-05.

I don't know if he would, but I can.
To pick out "peach" and pinpoint it to the yeast in a beer that according to Russian River should be "Full-bodied, very hoppy, with citrus, pine, fruity notes, and a nice dry, bitter finish" is a skill indeed.  I tip my hat to you sir!
When I have had the US05 peach flavor it has drowned out nearly everything else.

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2022, 01:22:28 pm »
Stick with dry yeast  ;D

Especially if you like peaches!   ;D
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2022, 01:24:09 pm »
Are you all telling me that if the OP used US-05, an incredibly reliable yeast for fermentation, that he would be able to pick out "peach" through the hops?  I'm quite certain I wouldn't be able to.
Caveats: I have never had Blind Pig and have only rarely used US-05.

I don't know if he would, but I can.
To pick out "peach" and pinpoint it to the yeast in a beer that according to Russian River should be "Full-bodied, very hoppy, with citrus, pine, fruity notes, and a nice dry, bitter finish" is a skill indeed.  I tip my hat to you sir!
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2022, 01:25:52 pm »
Are you all telling me that if the OP used US-05, an incredibly reliable yeast for fermentation, that he would be able to pick out "peach" through the hops?  I'm quite certain I wouldn't be able to.
Caveats: I have never had Blind Pig and have only rarely used US-05.

I don't know if he would, but I can.
To pick out "peach" and pinpoint it to the yeast in a beer that according to Russian River should be "Full-bodied, very hoppy, with citrus, pine, fruity notes, and a nice dry, bitter finish" is a skill indeed.  I tip my hat to you sir!
When I have had the US05 peach flavor it has drowned out nearly everything else.

I honestly find this all rather amazing.  Amazing that one can pick out the peach from the yeast in a citrus, pine, fruity IPA.  Amazing that US-05 throws that much flavor.  Amazing that the yeast remains so popular in the home brewing community.  Why?

So is the peach a good peach or a bad peach?  I ask because "peach" might be a nice addition to an IPA.  Now I'm tempted to use it again.

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2022, 01:36:57 pm »
and the endless debate about who can taste what rages on...
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2022, 02:03:02 pm »
I have used US-05 a couple of times in kits that I have bought and must admit that I can never taste anything peachy about it, but I am still new.  I am going to look at the yeast choices again when I order the kit.  But, since I am brewing a 5 gallon batch I am understanding from the info here that a starter is needed if I use a liquid yeast?   

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2022, 02:05:50 pm »
Are you all telling me that if the OP used US-05, an incredibly reliable yeast for fermentation, that he would be able to pick out "peach" through the hops?  I'm quite certain I wouldn't be able to.
Caveats: I have never had Blind Pig and have only rarely used US-05.

I don't know if he would, but I can.
To pick out "peach" and pinpoint it to the yeast in a beer that according to Russian River should be "Full-bodied, very hoppy, with citrus, pine, fruity notes, and a nice dry, bitter finish" is a skill indeed.  I tip my hat to you sir!
When I have had the US05 peach flavor it has drowned out nearly everything else.

I honestly find this all rather amazing.  Amazing that one can pick out the peach from the yeast in a citrus, pine, fruity IPA.  Amazing that US-05 throws that much flavor.  Amazing that the yeast remains so popular in the home brewing community.  Why?

So is the peach a good peach or a bad peach?  I ask because "peach" might be a nice addition to an IPA.  Now I'm tempted to use it again.

Good or bad are value judgements.  It depends on what you want.  Most of what I brewed with 05 were heavily hopped IPAs.  It did not cover the peach.
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2022, 02:07:10 pm »
I have used US-05 a couple of times in kits that I have bought and must admit that I can never taste anything peachy about it, but I am still new.  I am going to look at the yeast choices again when I order the kit.  But, since I am brewing a 5 gallon batch I am understanding from the info here that a starter is needed if I use a liquid yeast?   

With Wyeast (and probably White) my experience is that you need a starter for any 5 gal. batch over 1.050.
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2022, 02:40:45 pm »
I have used US-05 a couple of times in kits that I have bought and must admit that I can never taste anything peachy about it, but I am still new.  I am going to look at the yeast choices again when I order the kit.  But, since I am brewing a 5 gallon batch I am understanding from the info here that a starter is needed if I use a liquid yeast?   

With Wyeast (and probably White) my experience is that you need a starter for any 5 gal. batch over 1.050.

Cool.  Thanks, I will start educating myself on how to do that. 

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2022, 04:42:38 pm »
I have used US-05 a couple of times in kits that I have bought and must admit that I can never taste anything peachy about it, but I am still new.  I am going to look at the yeast choices again when I order the kit.  But, since I am brewing a 5 gallon batch I am understanding from the info here that a starter is needed if I use a liquid yeast?   

With Wyeast (and probably White) my experience is that you need a starter for any 5 gal. batch over 1.050.

Cool.  Thanks, I will start educating myself on how to do that.

Dead easy.  Make a qt. of 1.035ish wort. After cooling, put it in a gal. container.  I use an old apple juice jug.  Shake the crap out of it til it's full of foam (don't use anti foam). Pitch your yeast. 24 hours later pitch the whole thing at high krausen, or as close as you can get.  Don't sweat it.
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2022, 05:39:06 pm »
There are other dry yeast strains that don’t have a peach taste. Dry ≠ US05

Of course, but I was going for an answer as flip and shallow as "stick with dry yeast"

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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2022, 06:24:38 pm »
Some of us are more sensitive to different flavors and aromas. It appears that this is what's happening with US-05.
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2022, 06:37:10 pm »
There are other dry yeast strains that don’t have a peach taste. Dry ≠ US05

Of course, but I was going for an answer as flip and shallow as "stick with dry yeast"
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Re: Liquid yeast vs dry yeast
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2022, 03:42:12 am »
I have used US-05 a couple of times in kits that I have bought and must admit that I can never taste anything peachy about it, but I am still new.  I am going to look at the yeast choices again when I order the kit.  But, since I am brewing a 5 gallon batch I am understanding from the info here that a starter is needed if I use a liquid yeast?   

With Wyeast (and probably White) my experience is that you need a starter for any 5 gal. batch over 1.050.

Cool.  Thanks, I will start educating myself on how to do that.

Dead easy.  Make a qt. of 1.035ish wort. After cooling, put it in a gal. container.  I use an old apple juice jug.  Shake the crap out of it til it's full of foam (don't use anti foam). Pitch your yeast. 24 hours later pitch the whole thing at high krausen, or as close as you can get.  Don't sweat it.

I never made starter either, took the lazy way out, as I review my future with liquid yeast.
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As far as peach goes, never detected it in any brew made.
Maybe my senses are dead to it, but not to the dreaded grapefruit.
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