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Offline redrocker652002

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First try at Liquid Yeast
« on: February 10, 2022, 11:38:43 pm »
OK, so my brother has gotten the bug and is coming over Saturday to make his second batch of what I will call a Wheat beer.  We bought the kit from the local Morebeer and he bought liquid yeast with a smack pack.  My question is pretty simple, at least I think it is.  How long do I need to have it sit at room temp before we smack it?  I read it needs to sit for about 3 to 5 hours after the smacking, or beatdown as I will call it LOL, but when should I take it out of the fridge and just set it on the counter to warm up, before it gets it's beating?  LOL   
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 05:10:26 am »
I don't wait at all.  I pop it as soon as it comes out of the fridge. 

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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 06:04:36 am »
When I use that type I smack it when I start my brew day and let it sit on the kitchen counter until it's time to pitch.
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 06:54:09 am »
Perfect.  Thanks guys
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 07:55:34 am »
You dont need to wait at all. You dont even need to smack it.  Be sure to make a starter the day before you use it.
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 08:33:39 am »
How fresh is the pouch? It's possible to get away with direct-pitching if it's really fresh, e.g. no more than a few weeks old. But even then, making a starter is a really good idea with liquid yeast being used for the first time.
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 08:41:33 am »
Quote from: RC on February 11, 2022, 08:33:39 am
How fresh is the pouch? It's possible to get away with direct-pitching if it's really fresh, e.g. no more than a few weeks old. But even then, making a starter is a really good idea with liquid yeast being used for the first time.

I have had poor results direct pitching any beer over 1.040 OG
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2022, 08:56:15 am »
Crud, well I don't think I have the DME for a starter, but I guess I can take a drive to Morebeer and get some if it will make it better.  I don't have any of the needed equipment to do it either.  Damn, I knew I should have told my brother to get dry yeast.  Gonna hit youtube and see what I can find. 
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2022, 08:59:40 am »
I cannot find any dates on the package, but we bought it about a week ago if I remember correctly. 
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2022, 09:06:11 am »
A while back I discovered I was out of DME and didn't want to postpone my batch, so I used honey for my starter.  If I recall correctly, it worked just fine.
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2022, 09:09:28 am »
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2022, 09:14:35 am »
Quote from: redrocker652002 on February 11, 2022, 08:56:15 am
Crud, well I don't think I have the DME for a starter, but I guess I can take a drive to Morebeer and get some if it will make it better.  I don't have any of the needed equipment to do it either.  Damn, I knew I should have told my brother to get dry yeast.  Gonna hit youtube and see what I can find.

All you need is a gal. container.  I use an old apple juice jug.  https://www.experimentalbrew.com/blogs/denny/old-dognew-tricks
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2022, 09:19:31 am »
In lieu of making a starter, you could simply buy (and pitch) more pouches. But starters have other benefits for liquid yeast and making them is a good habit to get in to.

I have gotten away with direct-pitching a single fresh Wyeast pouch in the past...but there have been more times that I did not get away with it. YMMV, but simply put, it's a bad idea to direct-pitch a single Wyeast (or White Labs) pouch. Wyeast's marketing says you can...I don't know how they can claim this with a straight face.

As a side note, IME it's different with Imperial yeast. Yeah it's got more cells, but even old Imperial pouches take off like a rocket. They must feed their yeast steroids. I have no qualms direct-pitching even an old Imperial pouch (although I still make starters for them).

If you are going to Morebeer anyway, it's not a bad idea to pick up some dry yeast packets. They can sit around forever and are good to have on hand for "emergency" situations like this.

Cheers, I hope this wheat beer turns out great!
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2022, 09:22:33 am »
You are lucky to have a LHBS so close.  I have a wine making store, with limited brew supplies, 2 hours away, otherwise it's a 4 hour drive to a bonafied HBS.  I do a lot of mail order.
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Re: First try at Liquid Yeast
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2022, 09:22:54 am »
I h ave a water bottle that I have been using for measuring.  That could work.  If I use the canned starter, how long do I have to have it prepared before I put it in the wort?  We are brewing tomorrow, so am I going to be pushed for time?  Also, I don't have the stir plate thingie, can I just shake or stir the jug every so often?  This is all new to me, and we are supposed to brew tomorrow.  LOL. 
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