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narvin

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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2022, 10:08:36 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?). 

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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2022, 07:49:14 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).

Thanks, Narvin!  I will also keep that in mind.
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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2022, 08:09:47 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).

Thanks, Narvin!  I will also keep that in mind.

I haven't kept good records on the type of hop usage so my suggestion is to write down what you did so you can determine what you like!

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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2022, 08:14:20 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).

Thanks, Narvin!  I will also keep that in mind.

The other solution is to add a touch of American noble.
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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2022, 08:51:55 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).

Thanks, Narvin!  I will also keep that in mind.

The other solution is to add a touch of American noble.

Looking back at my recipes, my most recent IPA with cryo didn't have any Columbus dry hops, while my previous ones had some thrown in (around 20% of the total dry hop charge).  I've never bought Columbus Cryo so this was definitely T90, and I think the earthy flavor of Columbus could provide something similar.

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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2022, 09:14:00 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).

Thanks, Narvin!  I will also keep that in mind.

I haven't kept good records on the type of hop usage so my suggestion is to write down what you did so you can determine what you like!

I always keep complete records of every brew so I can have good repeatability
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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2022, 09:30:28 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).
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Re: New (to me) Cryo Hops
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2022, 09:46:45 am »
I've loved the results using Cryo, but I think my favorite beers had a close to 50:50 mix of Cryo and T90.  I didn't note the proportions in my recipes when substituting Cryo for regular hops, unfortunately, but the latest IPA that used all Cryo for late hops seemed to be lacking some of the flavors that I like (grassy?  bitterness from late hops?).
Some beers benefit from the astringency and herbal character associated with ‘green’ material, while others benefit from the reduction.  This is where science gives way to art.

By using American nobles along wit Cryo, you can control the amount of tannins you add back in.
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