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Offline Megary

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Cheating at Coconut
« on: April 25, 2022, 01:25:48 pm »
I have a 3-gallon batch of "Coconut" Porter fermenting right now.  Except, so far I don't have much coconut flavor.

At knockout, I added 1 - 7oz bag of toasted organic, unsweetened coconut.  The coconut steeped for about 5 minutes hot, and then steeped for another 45 minutes or so as my wort cooled to 65°.  At that point I transferred the wort to the fermenter and left the coconut behind.  A sample taste was underwhelming as there was little coconut flavor present in the wort.  Some, yes.  But not enough to have me convinced it will survive fermentation.  Call it step 1 in building a flavor profile.

However, I kind of expected this, and I do have a second 7oz bag on hand to use as a "dry hop", post-fermentation.  I expect this addition to pack a far bigger punch.  The plan is to taste again after 3-4 days and then rack to the keg, possibly with a bit of vanilla as a flavor enhancer.  Step 2.

But...

If I still find myself short on coconut taste and aroma, has anyone ever added Coconut spirits at packaging as a boost?  I'm thinking something along the lines of Kōloa Coconut Rum or the like.  I could make a tincture, but I really don't want to.

Thoughts?

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2022, 02:41:01 pm »
If you're gonna cheat, why not cheat directly with coconut flavoring?  I doubt there's actually much real coconut in flavored spirits either.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Coconut-Extract-2-fl-oz/405491759

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2022, 03:29:19 pm »
If you're gonna cheat, why not cheat directly with coconut flavoring?  I doubt there's actually much real coconut in flavored spirits either.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Coconut-Extract-2-fl-oz/405491759
Definite possibility.  Great idea.

Of course…it would be more fun finishing the Rum.   ;D

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2022, 07:15:06 am »
If you're gonna cheat, why not cheat directly with coconut flavoring?  I doubt there's actually much real coconut in flavored spirits either.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Coconut-Extract-2-fl-oz/405491759
Definite possibility.  Great idea.

Of course…it would be more fun finishing the Rum.   ;D

Absolutely, and blending with spirits is something that a homebrewer can do that pro brewers can't  :D

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 07:21:33 am »
If you're gonna cheat, why not cheat directly with coconut flavoring?  I doubt there's actually much real coconut in flavored spirits either.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Coconut-Extract-2-fl-oz/405491759

I use this extract in my yogurt and it works quite well.  I urge caution, however. It can overcome and become dominant.
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2022, 09:41:27 am »
Coconut extract wins awards.
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2022, 03:31:28 pm »
Coconut extract wins awards.

Voice of experience?
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2022, 05:57:32 pm »
Coconut extract wins awards.

Voice of experience?

Not my own, but that of others.
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2022, 07:40:17 pm »
 I could make a tincture, but I really don't want to.

I tried a tincture twice with a Porter and it didn’t work well. Added more vodka flavor to the beer than coconut. Go with extract.
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2022, 07:43:43 pm »
Coconut extract wins awards.

Voice of experience?

Not my own, but that of others.

I would be very curious to try this. Might put it on the "to do" list!
Had a very nice Coconut Porter on tap in Hawaii.

https://mauibrewingco.com/discover_beer/coconut-hiwa-porter/
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2022, 10:55:58 am »
I know this won't help with your current batch, but I've made lots of coconut beers and I've always had great results with using toasted organic coconut flakes post fermentation for 5 to 7 days prior to kegging. 1 pound per 5 gallons does the trick for me, as always YMMV. 🍺

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2022, 12:06:29 pm »
I know this won't help with your current batch, but I've made lots of coconut beers and I've always had great results with using toasted organic coconut flakes post fermentation for 5 to 7 days prior to kegging. 1 pound per 5 gallons does the trick for me, as always YMMV. 🍺
That most certainly helps.  My fermentation is just winding down now, and my plan is to "dry hop" with 7oz of organic, unsweetened coconut in primary.  The extract/coconut spirits question is more of a "just in case" situation.

I intend on bagging the coconut for the dry hop.  Will it float or sink?  I could add the coconut loose if that would be a better way to incorporate the flavor... and just deal with the transfer-to-keg repercussions later.

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2022, 10:51:40 am »
I know this won't help with your current batch, but I've made lots of coconut beers and I've always had great results with using toasted organic coconut flakes post fermentation for 5 to 7 days prior to kegging. 1 pound per 5 gallons does the trick for me, as always YMMV. 🍺
That most certainly helps.  My fermentation is just winding down now, and my plan is to "dry hop" with 7oz of organic, unsweetened coconut in primary.  The extract/coconut spirits question is more of a "just in case" situation.

I intend on bagging the coconut for the dry hop.  Will it float or sink?  I could add the coconut loose if that would be a better way to incorporate the flavor... and just deal with the transfer-to-keg repercussions later.

I usually bag the coconut for ease of removal prior to transferring to the keg. It does tend to float so I weigh the bag down. As long as the bag isn't too tight or full you shouldn't have any problems incorporating that delicious aroma and flavor of coconut.
Good luck! I love coconut infused beer. 🍺

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Re: Cheating at Coconut
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2022, 04:29:53 pm »
Out on a limb here but what about adding coconut water post fermentation? Either canned which "should" be sterilized from the canning process or straight from some coconuts? I think it just might add the nuance you're looking for.