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From Worst To First!
« on: May 12, 2022, 02:34:27 pm »
We all have made beers that were...well, not that great.

A very recent Munich Helles that I brewed fell into this category. Actually, might be one of the worst beers brewed here at Bel Air.
At first I thought it was good, taking a sample as it went into the keg.
But later, it had a pronounced aroma of movie theater buttered popcorn. This was also in the taste.
The buttered popcorn became more obvious as the beer warmed up.
I invited my brewing friend over to try a sample. He picked it up right away, saying the beer was flawed having a diacetyl taste and aroma.

So...I pulled the keg out of the lagering freezer, and set it at room temp. Waited 6 days. No improvement. None!

Next step, I pulled a pint of very fresh Diamond Yeast slurry from another beer, and pitched it in the room temp Munich Helles. 4 days later I crashed the keg, getting it down to 31 F.

Yesterday, I pulled a half pint of it and took it to my neighbor. This was a blind taste test, as the beer was in a stainless steel cup and he knew nothing other than it was a beer.

He took one sniff of the aroma, and immediately said..."Munich Helles". Dave said he could detect no flaws in this beer, and it was close to perfection.

I just now pulled another 1/2 pint to sample.

This beer, having been fixed, is the best example of a German beer that has come out of my brewery. It is good enough to make me think I'm in a beer hall in Munich Germany. It has that "it" flavor. Authentic. German.

It is with some sadness that I post this, as it is doubtful I could ever reproduce this particular beer.

But for those who make errors, there is always hope. A bad beer can be fixed!

And thanks to those of you who have offered help in the past, because this is where I got the idea of pitching fresh yeast slurry to fix a beer gone bad!
« Last Edit: May 12, 2022, 02:36:42 pm by Bel Air Brewing »
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2022, 02:56:04 pm »
Sounds like another win for Bel Air Brewing.
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 04:37:41 pm »
Sounds like another win for Bel Air Brewing.

Best beer yet.

If we can do it, anybody can do it. You too!

Fix mistakes, that is.

But it came so close to going down the toilet...

Edit: This is not a winner, as it was deeply flawed. It is fortunate that it was salvageable. Simply an error in my brewing technique.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2022, 05:56:35 pm by Bel Air Brewing »
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 10:03:12 pm »
Awesome.   Gives me hope that maybe I can get my stuff together and make something worth bragging about.  LOL.  Great to hear, congrats.  RR

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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2022, 05:56:15 am »
Awesome.   Gives me hope that maybe I can get my stuff together and make something worth bragging about.  LOL.  Great to hear, congrats.  RR

No bragging rights here, as I screwed the pooch big time. Not sure where the error was made.

But the real thrust of this thread is even a bad mistake can be fixed.

And thanks to the nice people on this forum, I have learned some techniques in regards to making repairs.
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2022, 07:11:59 am »
Awesome! Glad you can fix the beer.

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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2022, 07:50:38 am »
Awesome! Glad you can fix the beer.

Got lucky! Took some very fresh harvested yeast, perhaps a pint of slurry, and dumped it into the keg. It was at room temperature, around 74 degrees.

Had to bleed off the CO2 frequently (my contribution to global warming)

After a few days, 4 I think, chilled the beer back to 32.

It is night and day different. The yeast slurry not only ate up the diacetyl, but it really transformed the beer.

Can this procedure be used to eliminate other off flavors in beer?
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 08:29:31 am »
So basically you were krausening
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 08:48:34 am »
So basically you were krausening

That is correct. The results are so good, that I would prefer to brew this way in the future.

Will krausening fix other issues / problems with off flavors?
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 09:19:06 am »
Krausening will also consume any oxygen from the kegging/force carbonating process.  You could do something similar in a more repeatable way by spunding the beer.

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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 10:18:40 am »
i love it. great to hear.

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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2022, 11:02:31 am »
Krausening will also consume any oxygen from the kegging/force carbonating process.  You could do something similar in a more repeatable way by spunding the beer.

Good to know. Might have to try this next time we brew. Spunding.
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2022, 11:23:24 am »
When is the brewery opening to the public?
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2022, 01:11:00 pm »
When is the brewery opening to the public?

As soon as we learn how to brew some good beer!
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Re: From Worst To First!
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 02:16:46 pm »
When is the brewery opening to the public?

As soon as we learn how to brew some good beer!
From the sound of it, you’re already doing it. Keep it up!!!!
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