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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2022, 01:04:52 pm »
Here is the recipe that my friend sent me for McG’s Red (sorry if it’s not exactly what you were looking for, but he was indeed the brewer there a couple decades ago and since has been head of production at Cigar City as well as a few other places).  It may have changed since then.  As with any recipe, you can use this as a starting point.
2 row
C60
Chinook 60 mins
Willamette @15 mins and dry hop
OG 1.048-50
FG 1.008-12
SRM 11
IBU 30
ABV 5.5

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2022, 01:12:33 pm »
Here is the recipe that my friend sent me for McG’s Red (sorry if it’s not exactly what you were looking for, but he was indeed the brewer there a couple decades ago and since has been head of production at Cigar City as well as a few other places).  It may have changed since then.  As with any recipe, you can use this as a starting point.
2 row
C60
Chinook 60 mins
Willamette @15 mins and dry hop
OG 1.048-50
FG 1.008-12
SRM 11
IBU 30
ABV 5.5

Thank you! This gives us a great start on the recipe! This is my next brew project. Full report to be posted.

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2022, 12:47:41 pm »
Here is what we went with, using the grains on hand in the grain room:

10 gallons

12# Ireks Pale Malt
1# Tex-Malt Pils
4# Ireks Munich
1# Ireks 40*
8 oz Roasted Barley 300*

Single Infusion Mash

3 oz Savinjski Goldings 3.4AA (FWH)

18 IBU

75 Min Boil

OG: 1.049

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2022, 01:19:25 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2022, 01:21:35 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.

My thoughts, too - maybe 2-4 ounces would work well enough for coloring?
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2022, 01:42:48 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.

My thoughts, too - maybe 2-4 ounces would work well enough for coloring?

Yeah, I usually use 1 oz./5 gal. for color. 2 tops sometimes.  I'd be worried about it coming out too brown with that much.
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2022, 02:01:14 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.

My thoughts, too - maybe 2-4 ounces would work well enough for coloring?

Yeah, I usually use 1 oz./5 gal. for color. 2 tops sometimes.  I'd be worried about it coming out too brown with that much.

The recipes for an Irish Red found on other sites showed as much as 5 oz roasted malt (300*) for 5 gallons.
So we went with 8 ounces for the 13.5 gallon boil volume.

It is not too dark. But I did detect a bit of a roast aroma from the mash.

SRM range: 9 to 18

Ingredients
9.9 lbs. (4.5 kg) Crisp British pale ale malt or similar British pale ale malt
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (40 °L)
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (120 °L)
5.0 oz. (142 g) roasted barley (300 °L)
5.25 AAU Kent Golding pellet hops (60 min.) (1.05 oz./30 g at 5% alpha acid)
White Labs WLP004 (Irish Ale), Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale) or Fermentis Safale US-05 yeast

Ingredients
10 lbs. (4.5 kg) 2-row pale malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) Carapils® malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (40 °L)
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (75 °L)
3 oz. (85 g) biscuit malt
2 oz. (57 g) chocolate malt (350 °L)
1 oz. (28 g) black malt (600 °L)
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Irish Red Ale
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2022, 02:38:34 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.

My thoughts, too - maybe 2-4 ounces would work well enough for coloring?

Yeah, I usually use 1 oz./5 gal. for color. 2 tops sometimes.  I'd be worried about it coming out too brown with that much.

The recipes for an Irish Red found on other sites showed as much as 5 oz roasted malt (300*) for 5 gallons.
So we went with 8 ounces for the 13.5 gallon boil volume.

It is not too dark. But I did detect a bit of a roast aroma from the mash.

Ingredients
9.9 lbs. (4.5 kg) Crisp British pale ale malt or similar British pale ale malt
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (40 °L)
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (120 °L)
5.0 oz. (142 g) roasted barley (300 °L)
5.25 AAU Kent Golding pellet hops (60 min.) (1.05 oz./30 g at 5% alpha acid)
White Labs WLP004 (Irish Ale), Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale) or Fermentis Safale US-05 yeast

Ingredients
10 lbs. (4.5 kg) 2-row pale malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) Carapils malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (40 °L)
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (75 °L)
3 oz. (85 g) biscuit malt
2 oz. (57 g) chocolate malt (350 °L)
1 oz. (28 g) black malt (600 °L)
I don’t understand your recipe. Are those two separate recipes?

5 oz. of roasted barley or black malt for 5 gallons seems like stout territory to me.  I would expect way lower for a Irish Red, which I think should have much milder roast flavors if any.

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2022, 03:08:10 pm »
I'll be curious to see what you think of the color. 8 oz. roast seems a lot for a hint of color.

My thoughts, too - maybe 2-4 ounces would work well enough for coloring?

Yeah, I usually use 1 oz./5 gal. for color. 2 tops sometimes.  I'd be worried about it coming out too brown with that much.

The recipes for an Irish Red found on other sites showed as much as 5 oz roasted malt (300*) for 5 gallons.
So we went with 8 ounces for the 13.5 gallon boil volume.

It is not too dark. But I did detect a bit of a roast aroma from the mash.

Ingredients
9.9 lbs. (4.5 kg) Crisp British pale ale malt or similar British pale ale malt
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (40 °L)
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (120 °L)
5.0 oz. (142 g) roasted barley (300 °L)
5.25 AAU Kent Golding pellet hops (60 min.) (1.05 oz./30 g at 5% alpha acid)
White Labs WLP004 (Irish Ale), Wyeast 1084 (Irish Ale) or Fermentis Safale US-05 yeast

Ingredients
10 lbs. (4.5 kg) 2-row pale malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) Carapils malt
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (40 °L)
8 oz. (0.22 kg) crystal malt (75 °L)
3 oz. (85 g) biscuit malt
2 oz. (57 g) chocolate malt (350 °L)
1 oz. (28 g) black malt (600 °L)
I don’t understand your recipe. Are those two separate recipes?

5 oz. of roasted barley or black malt for 5 gallons seems like stout territory to me.  I would expect way lower for a Irish Red, which I think should have much milder roast flavors if any.

Yes, these are just two separate examples of Irish Red recipes I found online.

I used 8 ounces of roast in a 13.5 gallon boil.
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2022, 04:05:21 pm »
I agree. I would shoot to keep the rb below 2% for sure.
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2022, 04:09:03 pm »
Based on my homegrown calculator and the recipe, I get a final SRM of 13.9.  Seems ok to me.
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2022, 07:07:44 pm »
Based on my homegrown calculator and the recipe, I get a final SRM of 13.9.  Seems ok to me.

That sounds about right, might be 15. But still in the style guidelines, 9 to 18.

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2022, 07:10:06 pm »
I’m referring more to flavor than color. I bet the color is great
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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2022, 05:52:27 am »
I’m referring more to flavor than color. I bet the color is great

That is a distinct possibility. As I noted a hint of roast aroma while doing the mash. This is a first effort, so it's an experimental trial run. Either way, it should be a decent drinking beer. And I can always give it away, as many friends and neighbors are fans of craft beer.

A learning experience for sure. I got thrown off by the recipes that are published online, particularly BYO.

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Re: Irish Red Ale
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2022, 11:43:55 am »
Just pulled a small 1.5 oz sample, from the lager (Diamond) under fermentation.

The color is spot on at SRM 15. It is close to a Killian's in color, but lighter.

If there is any roast aroma, or flavor, it is so subtle that it is not really there.

Way too early to tell, but I feel the beer will be good. Will it be an authentic Irish Red? Time will tell.

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