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Offline kevingoyette

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Been in a slump lately
« on: July 25, 2022, 05:55:19 am »
Two of last four beers that I have made have turned out awful and I have had to dump them. The first was a Festbier that ended up as a diacetyl bomb. The second was an IPA that I believe got oxidized during dry hopping. After 15 years of home brewing I still make some undrinkable beers, but usually a little more few and far between. At least I still have a nice American Brown Ale on tap and some Belgian Dark Strong and Mead in bottles. Anyway, one thing that I have learned over last 15 years is that it’s okay to make mistakes and not force yourself to drink 5 gallons of off-flavor. In my early years of home brewing I think I felt obligated to push through and drink/suffer my mistakes.

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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2022, 06:19:43 am »
+1. It happens from time to time. Like you say, they get fewer and farther between the more we brew. I try to salvage the bad ones but cut the cord when it’s time. I recall a member here say something like If you brew a bad beer dump it. You don’t have to pay penance by drinking it.


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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2022, 07:39:28 am »
Fortunately I have never had to dump a beer. I once made a grapefruit IPA that had too much grapefruit extract and I couldn't stand to drink it ---- but my wife loved it!
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2022, 08:22:53 am »
Any more, my dumpers are just from getting too old to hold on to good flavor.  No matter how well you take precautions, beer that sits for months on end will eventually go bad or develop muted flavors or some off flavors.  Don't fear dumping bad beer.  I had my wife try an old bitter (I had brewed some time in early 2021) this weekend to make sure it was not "just me" - she said "Oh my God, you haven't made something this far off in years!"  I knew it had gone off; it was a pleasant beer early, but as the months passed, it developed a tartness that was off putting.  I should have dumped it weeks ago.  I have no problem with using an old beer as a water substitute for smoking meats, but I didn't want to take up a keg with that last one....

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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2022, 08:56:27 am »
Life is to short to drink less than stellar beer.
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2022, 03:08:49 pm »
I had a streak of brewing excellent beers for several years in a row before I started noticing this spring my beers were starting to get a little tart.  Then my last batch of wheat rye ale came out downright sour. I discovered what I think to be the source - I took apart my Bigmouth bubbler fermenter spigots and found some black gunk growing in them. Apparently just running bleach water through them was not enough.  :( I cleaned them up good and have a pils fermenting in them right now that's just about ready to rack. We'll see if that solves the problem.

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Been in a slump lately
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2022, 03:42:53 pm »
I had 2-3 infected batches in a row last year. It was rough.

Besides that I also just make bad beer due to bad recipe design from time to time.

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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2022, 06:57:09 am »
Mistakes are made all the time.  That’s why they put erasers on pencils.  The trick is to identify the mistake and correct it.  Easier said than done, but it’s necessary.  Whatever you do, keep working at it.  Learn your equipment and process and go!
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2022, 07:43:08 am »
+1. It happens from time to time. Like you say, they get fewer and farther between the more we brew. I try to salvage the bad ones but cut the cord when it’s time. I recall a member here say something like If you brew a bad beer dump it. You don’t have to pay penance by drinking it.


*Disclaimer*: Any comment I add is simply the way I brew beer. There are certainly other ways that can be equally effective which other brewers may contribute. This is what I’ve found that works for me using my equipment and processes so I offer this for your consideration. YMMV

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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2022, 08:01:55 am »
In regard to sanitation issues, switching up yiur sanitizer occasionally is a good idea. I had a low level house infection for several months. I switched from StarSan to Iodophor and it went away. Iodopbor will kill stuff StarSan won't. Now I interchange them and have had no further problems. Maybe circumstantial evidence, but worth a shot.
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2022, 08:15:37 am »
Life is to short to drink less than stellar beer.

I say this a lot.  And I'm never afraid to dump the bad stuff.  Life is too short indeed.

I would add, batches that are less than desirable is one of the reasons that I brew smaller batches than most people.  If/when the time comes, I am never dumping 5+ gallons of beer.  I only brew 1.5-2 gallons typically, so then a wasted batch hurts much less!
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2022, 10:34:01 am »
I've had to dump a lackluster beer before that just wasn't worth drinking. I even had a stuck sparge with BIAB - wow that's really bad  :-\.
The wheat in the grist was milled to fine and the bag wouldn't drain but I was lucky because it was a small batch.
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2022, 01:53:10 pm »
In regard to sanitation issues, switching up yiur sanitizer occasionally is a good idea. I had a low level house infection for several months. I switched from StarSan to Iodophor and it went away. Iodopbor will kill stuff StarSan won't. Now I interchange them and have had no further problems. Maybe circumstantial evidence, but worth a shot.

This is great advice. About 15 years ago, I had another series of infections. I then switched from StarSan to quaternary ammonium. Problem solved.

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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2022, 02:06:14 pm »
In regard to sanitation issues, switching up yiur sanitizer occasionally is a good idea. I had a low level house infection for several months. I switched from StarSan to Iodophor and it went away. Iodopbor will kill stuff StarSan won't. Now I interchange them and have had no further problems. Maybe circumstantial evidence, but worth a shot.

This is great advice. About 15 years ago, I had another series of infections. I then switched from StarSan to quaternary ammonium. Problem solved.

You're braver than I.  I don't think I'd use quat in a food grade situation/
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Re: Been in a slump lately
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2022, 03:19:48 pm »
In regard to sanitation issues, switching up yiur sanitizer occasionally is a good idea. I had a low level house infection for several months. I switched from StarSan to Iodophor and it went away. Iodopbor will kill stuff StarSan won't. Now I interchange them and have had no further problems. Maybe circumstantial evidence, but worth a shot.

This is great advice. About 15 years ago, I had another series of infections. I then switched from StarSan to quaternary ammonium. Problem solved.

You're braver than I.  I don't think I'd use quat in a food grade situation/

Really? The product I used was specifically made for the restaurant industry.

https://www.webstaurantstore.com/edwards-councilor-steramine-sanitizing-tablets-sanitabs-bottle/999TABS.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxIOXBhCrARIsAL1QFCYAJJZYbYVeCNH7UNsYhc0_xNX406nVdyBW3ZkbJuHUjPJZgEv9o2YaAnCaEALw_wcB