[kramerog]

I dont understand the point of this. I use lager yeast for a clean fermentation profile. Why would I want huge fruity flavors from my lager yeast?

I view this as a product for lager breweries (lager breweries need gimmicks too!). For everyone else just use a thiolized ale yeast unless it turns out that there is a specific advantage to the thiolized lager yeast.

[majorvices]

All the old fuddy-duddies on this forum ...

[denny]

All the old fuddy-duddies on this forum ...

Ya know, that has nothing to do with it. And I kinda resent it.  I'm not posting memes about stupid younger people.

[majorvices]

All the old fuddy-duddies on this forum ...

Ya know, that has nothing to do with it. And I kinda resent it.  I'm not posting memes about stupid younger people.

Apologies. I'm just joking around. Also, I work around a lot of kids so I get the "old guy" thing all the time as well. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's not.

But to be clear, it wasn't pointed at anyone in particular.

[dmtaylor]

I'm not posting memes about stupid younger people.

But to be clear, it wasn't pointed at anyone in particular.

But we ARE stupid though.  Has anyone read my permanent .sig?  More than just a .sig, it shall be my epitaph.

[ynotbrusum]

Not so much stupid, rather misinformed, uninformed, or under-informed?  I think most of us are capable, but sometimes without sufficient, correct information....(glass half full kind of approach).  But I get what you mean - really similar to what Denny's sig says about not being so sure of ourselves.  As to age - I'm old.

[majorvices]

Just wanted to post my findings on the beers I brewed with this strain: Some people mentioned they "didn't get it, a lager yeast that introduces fruity flavors".

I found the lager qualities form this beer to be fantastic. Fairly dry with that indescribably-nuanced lager flavor. What I found extremely interesting was the dry wine-wine/chardonnay character that was present in the beer which made it incredibly drinkable. This was a hop-forward "Cold IPA" (or whatever) brewed with Montueka hops (6% pilsner malt base). No Phantasm in this one (the one that was brewed with Phantasm and Saaz I didn't quite care for but it did have that same "white wine" character).

I had a difficult time finding any information that said that the thiolized yeasts would release grape-forward flavor as opposed to tropical until recently on one of the MBAA podcast recently where someone mentioned it.

I could definitely see this yeast becoming a regularly used rotation. I really liked this beer.

[erockrph]

Just wanted to post my findings on the beers I brewed with this strain: Some people mentioned they "didn't get it, a lager yeast that introduces fruity flavors".

I found the lager qualities form this beer to be fantastic. Fairly dry with that indescribably-nuanced lager flavor. What I found extremely interesting was the dry wine-wine/chardonnay character that was present in the beer which made it incredibly drinkable. This was a hop-forward "Cold IPA" (or whatever) brewed with Montueka hops (6% pilsner malt base). No Phantasm in this one (the one that was brewed with Phantasm and Saaz I didn't quite care for but it did have that same "white wine" character).

I had a difficult time finding any information that said that the thiolized yeasts would release grape-forward flavor as opposed to tropical until recently on one of the MBAA podcast recently where someone mentioned it.

I could definitely see this yeast becoming a regularly used rotation. I really liked this beer.

I am definitely looking forward to trying this in the spring. I brew a lightly dry-hopped Pilsner using Motueka (is that called a Cold APA now?), and this sounds like a great yeast choice for it.