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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2022, 04:55:42 am »
I just got 82% on my last batch with S-04, went from 1.073 to 1.013.  This was a Munich based beer that I mashed at 150 F for 65 minutes.  A different batch before that got 78%.  This is a good yeast.  Unlike some other yeasts, this one drops crystal clear after a few days; however I do have a chill haze on the current batch, not sure why, it does clear as it warms.

Still no fruitiness, no diacetyl, no sulfur, nothing off.  Very neutral, like you wish US-05 was but isn't.
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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2022, 08:11:10 am »
I just brewed an Amber Ale and a bitter with S04.  Bother we’re mashed at about 151F for 60 minutes. Both had approximately 8% caramel malts, 91% base malts, and 1% roasted malts for color. Both had 83% apparent attenuation.

Wow, nice!  That's very close to where I'd be hoping for (and I would likely be a % or three less on the Crystal). 

Thanks, Tommy.  I will have to do a series of split-batch comparisons with it.  This could potentially simplify my yeast arsenal in a good way.

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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2022, 08:19:21 am »
I think people put too much emphasis on yeast attenuation rating. It's simply a way of comparing one yeast to another and doesn't necessarikky have my bearing on the attenuation you can expect. I've had the experience of the same yeast giving me both 65 and 85%. I feel it's as least, if not more, dependent on wort.
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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2022, 09:33:53 am »
I think people put too much emphasis on yeast attenuation rating. It's simply a way of comparing one yeast to another and doesn't necessarikky have my bearing on the attenuation you can expect. I've had the experience of the same yeast giving me both 65 and 85%. I feel it's as least, if not more, dependent on wort.
Agree.
I've used S-04 twice, both times in a Stout.  I got 68% each time.   ;D

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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2022, 10:02:57 am »
I think people put too much emphasis on yeast attenuation rating. It's simply a way of comparing one yeast to another and doesn't necessarikky have my bearing on the attenuation you can expect. I've had the experience of the same yeast giving me both 65 and 85%. I feel it's as least, if not more, dependent on wort.
Agree.
I've used S-04 twice, both times in a Stout.  I got 68% each time.   ;D
That’s why I tried to describe the co tent of my wort with info about the ingredients and mash temp.

I just want the beer to taste good.

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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2022, 10:25:27 am »
I think tracking the average attenuation of S-04 in particular, and how it's clear to many that it's changed, over time, helps prove that it's not the same yeast strain today as it was 10-20 years ago.  There can be merit in paying attenuation to such things.  Not to every little anecdote, of course, but the overall trend of many people & many batches.
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Re: Can someone refresh my memory regarding S-04?
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2022, 05:24:50 pm »
I got 76% the last time I used s-04 in a Summer Ale (Apr ‘21).