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Offline Descardeci

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Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« on: August 25, 2022, 08:01:52 am »
Hey folks, hope you all are doing good.
I need help with one problem that I’m having, I start use keg and the beers I keg have a nice head retention, but the beers that I priming are not have that good of head retention, they’re carbed enough, I have a saison with 3.0 vols of CO2 and having a nice carbonatic bite, but the foam dissolve quick, I have other a belgian pale ale with a little better foam but not like my beers in the kegs. Anyone had this kind of problem? I always wash my bottles after use, and put some 70% alcohol, in the day of bottlening I use Iodophor, siphon the beer with low flow to help minimize the oxidation and dissolve inverted sugar, bottle with less than 30 minute after transfer. I cleaned my bottle vessel thoroughly with running water so there no residue. I’m truly puzzled with this

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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2022, 11:56:24 am »
I've read that soap residue kills head retention. Maybe rinse more thoroughly.

Another guess - I've had some that took many weeks in bottles before having good head retention. I don't know the theory, or even if that is an accepted idea, but it's what I observed.

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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2022, 02:05:29 pm »
Are the beers you're kegging and the beers you're bottle conditioning the same recipe?
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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2022, 02:53:13 pm »
There might be a problem with your capper.
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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2022, 04:33:09 pm »
There might be a problem with your capper.
He (she?) says he’s got carbonation, but poor head retention.
I wonder about the 70% alcohol treatment.
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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2022, 10:06:23 am »
There might be a problem with your capper.
He (she?) says he’s got carbonation, but poor head retention.
I wonder about the 70% alcohol treatment.

Is a he lol. I have nice carbonation but some poor retention, gonna check about the alcohol because I use a lot of water to wash the detergent.
Never was the same recipe at the same time, but already keg a recipe I already did and bottle conditioned with better head retention

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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2022, 09:30:39 am »
How much sugar per what size batch?

Are you noticing a lot of floating material or yeast slurry at the bottom of the glass as the beer settles?
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Re: Problem with head retention in beers bottled with priming
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2022, 05:18:35 pm »
How much sugar per what size batch?

Are you noticing a lot of floating material or yeast slurry at the bottom of the glass as the beer settles?

5 gallon batch and I use the brewersfriend priming calculator, it not a problem with the carbonation but only the head retention, and the floating material depend on what style, usually I brew more english and lagers style, some time some american stylies, but I pour to the glass with careful so I don't even have the chance to drag the yeast, most come out crystal clear if I do this