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Offline neuse

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Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« on: January 17, 2023, 08:42:33 am »
Article in the Charlotte Observer: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/charlottefive/c5-food-drink/article271091042.html
This says "What’s different? While the new recipe Fat Tire includes the same malts as the original recipe, it features all new hops. The brew also includes raw barley, which lightened the body of the beer"

This is new to me. Is anyone familiar with using raw barley?

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2023, 09:05:42 am »
Pretty much only in the context of turbid mashing as noted in this article:

https://byo.com/article/turbid-mashing/

A little might induce a starchier wort for more mouthfeel?  I don't know all of the downsides, but it may lead to a less stable product based on what I recall.
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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2023, 09:06:35 am »
Article in the Charlotte Observer: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/charlottefive/c5-food-drink/article271091042.html
This says "What’s different? While the new recipe Fat Tire includes the same malts as the original recipe, it features all new hops. The brew also includes raw barley, which lightened the body of the beer"

This is new to me. Is anyone familiar with using raw barley?

I would guess that the report is wrong.
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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2023, 12:59:27 pm »
Article in the Charlotte Observer: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/charlottefive/c5-food-drink/article271091042.html
This says "What’s different? While the new recipe Fat Tire includes the same malts as the original recipe, it features all new hops. The brew also includes raw barley, which lightened the body of the beer"

This is new to me. Is anyone familiar with using raw barley?

Possibly the writer read/heard "unmalted barley" or "flaked barley" and mistakenly assumed raw...  Or maybe meant "unmalted" and just got sloppy and inadvertantly said "raw" but really knew what she meant.  Those would be my guesses.

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2023, 02:57:38 pm »
Article in the Charlotte Observer: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/charlottefive/c5-food-drink/article271091042.html
This says "What’s different? While the new recipe Fat Tire includes the same malts as the original recipe, it features all new hops. The brew also includes raw barley, which lightened the body of the beer"

This is new to me. Is anyone familiar with using raw barley?

I would guess that the report is wrong.
There is a lot of hub-bub around this- with a good article at Good Beer Hunting.  Reformulated and rebranded the beer with no info regarding recipe from the brewery thus far.  Weird choice.

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2023, 04:11:13 pm »
I stand corrected.

I think the new version was on store shelves before the website was published. 

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2023, 06:53:26 am »
I've used flaked barley, which is unmalted malted barley that has been gelantanized by the flaking process. This was a work around to emulate using chit malt. This was in a pilsner at about 5%, to give more body and foam retention. I didn't notice any haze at that level. It the new Fat Tire a Hazy?

https://crispmalt.com/malts/chitmalt/#:~:text=Chit%20Malt%20is%20a%20great,particularly%20beneficial%20for%20hazy%20brews.
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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2023, 08:54:33 am »
I've used flaked barley, which is unmalted malted barley that has been gelantanized by the flaking process. This was a work around to emulate using chit malt. This was in a pilsner at about 5%, to give more body and foam retention. I didn't notice any haze at that level. It the new Fat Tire a Hazy?

https://crispmalt.com/malts/chitmalt/#:~:text=Chit%20Malt%20is%20a%20great,particularly%20beneficial%20for%20hazy%20brews.

Flaked barley, sure.  But raw barley? To me, that indicates no processing at all.
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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2023, 09:08:35 am »
unmalted barley can be slightly less expensive, I know some of the big guys (Modelo for example) use it in moderate amounts and use supplemental enzymes for conversion

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2023, 09:30:19 am »
I've used flaked barley, which is unmalted malted barley that has been gelantanized by the flaking process. This was a work around to emulate using chit malt. This was in a pilsner at about 5%, to give more body and foam retention. I didn't notice any haze at that level. It the new Fat Tire a Hazy?

https://crispmalt.com/malts/chitmalt/#:~:text=Chit%20Malt%20is%20a%20great,particularly%20beneficial%20for%20hazy%20brews.
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ABV
5.2

IBU
15

CALORIES
140

YEAST
House Ale Yeast

HOPS
Triumph, HBC-522, Barbe Rouge

MALT
Pale, C-80, Munich, Raw Barley

Today, Fat Tire blends a subtle malt presence with a slightly fruity hop profile and crisp finish, to create a bright and balanced beer that drinks easy, anywhere.
On Tap/Bottled: IPL, Adjunct Vienna, Golden Stout, Honey Lager
Fermenting: IPA
Up Next: mexi lager, Germerican pale ale

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Re: Raw Barley in Fat Tire
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2023, 09:43:52 am »
I definitely learned something - thanks all for the comments.