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Over the weekend, I was cleaning some 375ml and 750ml bottles to cork and cage a Belgian Golden Strong I have in the fermenter. Even after soaking them in hot PBW for 20-30 minutes (some even longer), I still noticed something in the bottle. Most of what was left was just on one side from when the full bottle sat on a wine rack to seal the cork. I'm wondering if I need to get a bottle brush inside there to remove what is only on one side , or if Craftmeister Alkaline Wash would be able to clean the bottles up. Thoughts?This reminds me again why I don't bottle very often anymore.
Quote from: waltsmalt on February 27, 2023, 10:44:22 amOver the weekend, I was cleaning some 375ml and 750ml bottles to cork and cage a Belgian Golden Strong I have in the fermenter. Even after soaking them in hot PBW for 20-30 minutes (some even longer), I still noticed something in the bottle. Most of what was left was just on one side from when the full bottle sat on a wine rack to seal the cork. I'm wondering if I need to get a bottle brush inside there to remove what is only on one side , or if Craftmeister Alkaline Wash would be able to clean the bottles up. Thoughts?This reminds me again why I don't bottle very often anymore.All I can tell you is that ABW is much more effective than PBW. Of course, a brush is a sure thing.
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on February 22, 2023, 01:35:18 pmQuote from: goose on February 22, 2023, 10:01:28 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on February 17, 2023, 07:13:10 amQuote from: waltsmalt on February 17, 2023, 06:59:04 amPBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW. My $0.02Oxyclean<PBW<Craft Meister Alkaline Those work on organic material. For beer stone and mineral buildup you need an acid.Barkeeper's Friend or a Beer Stone remover.You can also go to a farm supply store that sells an acid cleaner that removes milk stone. It works well for beer stone and is relatively inexpensive. I bought mine at a business that sells bulk milk tanks. It has phosphoric and hydrochloric acids in it and works well without damaging the stainless steel. I also use it to remove beer stone from my kegs. Obviously, you would use this after an alkaline cleanser like PBW or Craft Meister.I'll look again around here. Not too many dairy farms left in my area so no luck at the farm store. Loads of horse farms though.I can't remember where I've heard it before, but I thought you could just use StarSan/Saniclean as a beer stone remover since they are acid based. I use BLC once or twice a year, but I've honestly never run into any beer stone issues in my kegs/lines/taps. I've always just chalked it up to my typical procedure of running PBW followed by Star San through all my kegs and lines whenever I change a keg (the Star San part in particular).
Quote from: goose on February 22, 2023, 10:01:28 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on February 17, 2023, 07:13:10 amQuote from: waltsmalt on February 17, 2023, 06:59:04 amPBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW. My $0.02Oxyclean<PBW<Craft Meister Alkaline Those work on organic material. For beer stone and mineral buildup you need an acid.Barkeeper's Friend or a Beer Stone remover.You can also go to a farm supply store that sells an acid cleaner that removes milk stone. It works well for beer stone and is relatively inexpensive. I bought mine at a business that sells bulk milk tanks. It has phosphoric and hydrochloric acids in it and works well without damaging the stainless steel. I also use it to remove beer stone from my kegs. Obviously, you would use this after an alkaline cleanser like PBW or Craft Meister.I'll look again around here. Not too many dairy farms left in my area so no luck at the farm store. Loads of horse farms though.
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on February 17, 2023, 07:13:10 amQuote from: waltsmalt on February 17, 2023, 06:59:04 amPBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW. My $0.02Oxyclean<PBW<Craft Meister Alkaline Those work on organic material. For beer stone and mineral buildup you need an acid.Barkeeper's Friend or a Beer Stone remover.You can also go to a farm supply store that sells an acid cleaner that removes milk stone. It works well for beer stone and is relatively inexpensive. I bought mine at a business that sells bulk milk tanks. It has phosphoric and hydrochloric acids in it and works well without damaging the stainless steel. I also use it to remove beer stone from my kegs. Obviously, you would use this after an alkaline cleanser like PBW or Craft Meister.
Quote from: waltsmalt on February 17, 2023, 06:59:04 amPBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW. My $0.02Oxyclean<PBW<Craft Meister Alkaline Those work on organic material. For beer stone and mineral buildup you need an acid.Barkeeper's Friend or a Beer Stone remover.
PBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW.
Quote from: goose on February 22, 2023, 10:01:28 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on February 17, 2023, 07:13:10 amQuote from: waltsmalt on February 17, 2023, 06:59:04 amPBW. I've tried using Oxyclean in the past, but I've never had the same results as PBW. My $0.02Oxyclean<PBW<Craft Meister Alkaline Those work on organic material. For beer stone and mineral buildup you need an acid.Barkeeper's Friend or a Beer Stone remover.You can also go to a farm supply store that sells an acid cleaner that removes milk stone. It works well for beer stone and is relatively inexpensive. I bought mine at a business that sells bulk milk tanks. It has phosphoric and hydrochloric acids in it and works well without damaging the stainless steel. I also use it to remove beer stone from my kegs. Obviously, you would use this after an alkaline cleanser like PBW or Craft Meister.Hopefully it doesn't have any HCL in it since that is a no no with stainless. Chlorinated caustics do get used as a dairy cleaner/sanitizer and the pH may have an inhibiting effect. The best rule of thumb is keep chlorine away from your stainless.
Purchased some ABW and I am using it to clean bottles. How long of a soak do you recommend to get them clean? After about 30 minutes, it didn’t seem to remove the last of the deposits in the bottle.
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