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Czech dark lager
« on: October 03, 2023, 11:12:39 am »
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2023, 12:39:05 pm »
That's awesome, thanks Denny.  Pilsner malt, Munich, Caramel and roast.  I am lucky to have tasted this beer at U Fleku in 2013 or 2014.  Delicious and the place itself is really fun and charming. 
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2023, 12:40:02 pm »
That's awesome, thanks Denny.  Pilsner malt, Munich, Caramel and roast.  I am lucky to have tasted this beer at U Fleku in 2013 or 2014.  Delicious and the place itself is really fun and charming.

Hope I can make it there someday.
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2023, 03:30:37 pm »
an article with enough details that I would be able to make the beer. That's awesome. I assume the water used is quite soft?

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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2023, 03:49:33 pm »
an article with enough details that I would be able to make the beer. That's awesome. I assume the water used is quite soft?

I don't think I'd assume that.
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2023, 03:52:35 pm »
They mention under-attenuation.  Maybe I missed it, but any thoughts on how that’s achieved.  Yeast, mash temps, something else?
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2023, 09:08:35 am »
They mention under-attenuation.  Maybe I missed it, but any thoughts on how that’s achieved.  Yeast, mash temps, something else?

Maybe the high amount of crystal.
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2023, 09:35:45 am »
an article with enough details that I would be able to make the beer. That's awesome. I assume the water used is quite soft?

I don't think I'd assume that.
higher bicarb?

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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2023, 10:11:48 am »
another interesting thing of note from that article is the use of Saaz, a low AA aroma hop for 25 IBU's.

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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2023, 11:18:53 am »
an article with enough details that I would be able to make the beer. That's awesome. I assume the water used is quite soft?

I don't think I'd assume that.
higher bicarb?

We can guess lots of things, but I don't see any way of knowing
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2023, 11:19:19 am »
another interesting thing of note from that article is the use of Saaz, a low AA aroma hop for 25 IBU's.

Not unusual at all
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2023, 12:07:43 pm »
Might be completely off-topic but water-wise .. I think it helps to have a bit of calcium sulfate in the water so the finish isn't overly muddy.  I think Martin agreed with me in a thread some time ago.  A dunkel, vienna lager, a dark lager or dark ale, etc. needs a bit of crispness in the finish so the beer doesn't taste like mud.  :D  So if I were to make this beer I would plan accordingly.  I know that all of our water is different but I would be looking to boost the sulfate a bit on this style.  What was the yeast mentioned?  The last time I made a Czech beer I used 2124.   
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Re: Czech dark lager
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2023, 12:36:05 pm »
I agree with adding gypsum to balance the chloride. How much I add depends on the perceived effect I am trying to achieve: malty, balanced, or bitter.

Strong says not all the calcium makes it to the boil kettle and Talley puts a pin in it at ~40% of the calcium will make it to the kettle. So, I add CaCl to the mash and gypsum to the boil.

I’ve found if I add the CaCl to the mash and gypsum to the kettle I get much less residue (beerstone?) in the fermenter and keg.