[roguejim]

I just had a couple of pints, on tap, of Hacker Pschorr dunkel weissen.  I don't know how this particular brand rates, but I enjoyed it enough to want to brew a d-weissen.

Looking at Jamil's recipe. I see he uses some Special B and crystal 40L.  Any other tried and true recipes?

[Hokerer]

Last I checked, the recipe wiki on this site didn't have any dunkelweizens.  I did come into some CaraWheat and thought a dunkelweizen would be the right fit.  The discussion of that from a week or two ago is here...

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4001

[roguejim]

Okay, based on Eric Warner's book, and info from the BJCP guidelines, I've come up with this tentative recipe.

Do you think the 30L Canadian (Gambrinus) Munich malt is a bad idea?  I have 8L German Munich, too, so I can go either way.  The 30L Munich puts me near the lower limit for SRMs though

Jamil's recipe includes Special B, and crystal 40L.  I don't know...

Batch Size (Gal):         7.00    Wort Size (Gal):    7.00
Total Grain (Lbs):       12.69
Anticipated OG:          1.054    Plato:             13.39
Anticipated SRM:          15.3
Anticipated IBU:          14.2
Brewhouse Efficiency:       80 %
Wort Boil Time:             60    Minutes

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used:   Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth
Tinseth Concentration Factor: 1.30

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops:         2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops:      10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 69.0     8.75 lbs. Wheat Malt                    Germany        1.039      2
 29.6     3.75 lbs. Munich Malt(dark)             Canada         1.034     30
  1.5     0.19 lbs. Carafa Special II             Germany        1.030    430

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
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  1.10 oz.    Mt. Hood                          Pellet   4.40  14.2  60 min.

[brewbeard]

I would go with the 8L Munich, especially if it is a continental variety. Any Munich malt that is as dark as 30L should be treated more like a specialty grain like aromatic than a base malt that is used as a large proportion of the grist.

[Malticulous]

My best Dunkel weiss biers are 40% Munich (5-10L) and 60% wheat and some Carfa II for color only. It doesn't have to be as dark as the guidelines. Some like caramunich in them but I don't think it's necessary with all that Munich malt.

[roguejim]

Thanks for the input. 

It appears that Babalu has an award winning recipe.  Is it available?

[ladylupulin]

This is so cool. My next brew is a dunkelweizen. I want to add a little Vienna, well, maybe replace most of the Munich with Vienna. I love rougejim's recipe, but can 70% wheat really bring out the Munich? I might be more inclined to go with the 50% by law (Germany) wheat and maybe 25% Munich and 25% Vienna. I guess I'm a Vienna junkie. I can see the advantage of ramping up to 70% wheat. It would have all the great characteristics. Looking for input like rougejim.