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Offline Mikey

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2010, 07:45:47 pm »
Distilling can be legal, just like homebrewing can be illegal. Look at all of the people that openly posted here from states where brewing was/is illegal. Sorry, I don't buy the illegal argument as reason not to discuss it.

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2010, 07:52:45 pm »
Whatever the AHS's reason for not wanting us to discuss the process here, I respect, and hope everyone else feels the same way. As I stated before, I don't feel the reason is legalaties. The AHA is here to promote HOMEBREWING, not distilling. A large part of the population that does not brew, views it as one in the same. So, they don't want to give any so called "lurker on this board" any more reason to think we are rum runners. The right to home brew has been fought long and hard in many states, and  still happening in some. So, let's not give these guys with thier panties in a wad any more reason to think we are moonshiners, by discussing processes here.
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2010, 07:58:04 pm »
I'm completely fine with following their rules, but as far as being referred to as a moonshiner, I think that's funny as hell and kind of enjoy it.

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2010, 07:06:42 am »
I'm completely fine with following their rules, but as far as being referred to as a moonshiner, I think that's funny as hell and kind of enjoy it.

Its all fun n games till the local cops bust in and charge you, yes you may win in the long run but at what cost?
Here in my part of Fla. moonshine is very real and hoping the cops would know the difference is asking alot. I made sure to tell everybody I brew beer and always offer samples to avoid any problems.

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2010, 09:29:43 am »
I don't necessarily agree with this line of thinking.

  I think Denny' point is there are a lot of generalities about us as homebrewers. A lot of people think we are nothing but moonshiners. So, let's say someone with this ignorant mantality is lukrking this board. They see a thread about distillation, with procedures. This is only going to add fuel to their fire.
   I may be taking his post the wrong way, but I think this was the line of reasoning.

That's exactly it, Barry.  We have an uphill battle with many legislators trying to convince them that if they legalize homebrewing, they won't be creating moonshiners.  We don't want to add to that mistaken impression.  Frankly, I really wish one of you guys who are interested in this would create a place where you could all discuss it.  It's outside of the AHA's mission, and I'd rather not have it going on here.  That's my opinion only....
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2010, 11:03:31 am »
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That's exactly it, Barry.  We have an uphill battle with many legislators trying to convince them that if they legalize homebrewing, they won't be creating moonshiners.  We don't want to add to that mistaken impression.  Frankly, I really wish one of you guys who are interested in this would create a place where you could all discuss it.  It's outside of the AHA's mission, and I'd rather not have it going on here.  That's my opinion only....

Respectfully, I disagree.

If the mission is homebrewing and we want to stick to that, let's do it (TechTalk?).  If we are opening the box and going for barbeque, music, hockey, each other's health, etc. then I think distilling is just as valid.

I don't believe the majority of "lurkers" on the board are bored legislators.

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2010, 11:12:32 am »
The difference I see is that BBQ, music, health issues, etc. are legal.
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2010, 11:19:34 am »
And not adding to the myth that homebrewers are up to anythnig shady.
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2010, 11:45:38 am »
And not adding to the myth that homebrewers are up to anythnig shady.

Maybe not "shady" but could definitely be construed as "sinful". As in, some of that BBQ stuff looks absolutely sinfully good. :)
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2010, 12:30:44 pm »
And not adding to the myth that homebrewers are up to anythnig shady.

Well, if'n I was a moonshiner, I'd want to set my still up in the shade.

All jokes aside, I certainly understand the AHA concern about the discussion of distilling (from a hands-on technical viewpoint) and in regard to possible efforts to legalize distilling. Our mission & purpose are about beer and brewing, not distillation, wine-making, etc. I can see where some might think it's not in the interest of the organization, or even might be bad for our primary interests, to consider efforts to legalize home distillation.

On the other hand, there is a strong and direct tie in between beer and whisky distillation, not to mention cross-fertillization with whisky barrels being used to age beer and even in some cases beer barrels being used to age whisky. I firmly believe that if we homebrewers had the freedom to learn to safely distill at home, our creativity, experimentation and willingness to explore & push the limits would benefit the craft brewing industry and their ventures in distillation.

While this currently may be a minority opinion and interest, I'd like to see us continue our discussions here rather than take it to a distillation forum in the hopes that more home brewers may become interested in making home distillation legal. It may be a while before that would gain enough traction to become a goal of the AHA but we have to start somewhere. Its both an issue of freedom (and I think most home brewers are in favor of that) but also of huge p[otential benefit to our interest in alcoholic beverages. If I had a brewery, I'd like the freedom to brew, distill, make a mead or a wine, blend all of 'em (or some of /em) together - in short to follow my creativity and taste wherever it might lead.

That is not currently possible with our laws today, but I can dream about the time when it might be possible. If enough of us share that dream we can make it happen. If we discuss it, we might find that more share that dream in our organization than we suspect... and if not, then maybe we'll convince them that we have a viable plan, but only if we continue to discuss and build interest & consensus.

(how's that for diplomaticly stating the postition?)
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2010, 12:34:37 pm »
Very well said. Thank you.

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2010, 12:39:47 pm »
I can dream about the time when it might be possible. If enough of us share that dream we can make it happen. If we discuss it, we might find that more share that dream in our organization than we suspect... and if not, then maybe we'll convince them that we have a viable plan, but only if we continue to discuss and build interest & consensus.
(how's that for diplomaticly stating the postition?)

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2010, 03:57:25 pm »
And without questions, there are only statements. (or something like that)
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Re: Distilling
« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2010, 05:22:21 am »
ok, so let's take this in a more 'pc' & socially acceptable direction for a bit..... apparently there are a bunch of us who love distilled products. what's your favorite(s)?

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Re: Distilling
« Reply #74 on: October 20, 2010, 05:35:05 am »
ok, so let's take this in a more 'pc' & socially acceptable direction for a bit..... apparently there are a bunch of us who love distilled products. what's your favorite(s)?

My favorites are the types that would come out of a pot-still as opposed to those from a fractionating column.
Slivovic for example is a very clean drink, but has lots of flavor. Vodka, is TOO clean and flavorless for me.
The moral majority, is neither.