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Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« on: October 26, 2010, 07:33:55 AM »
Does anyone secondary/sour beers with Brett, Pedio, or Lacto in a corny? If so, how do you set it up so that it gets the little bit of oxygen that it needs to sour correctly?

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 06:09:11 PM »
Usually I just pour the white labs vial of sour mix right into the corny keg.  However, I have noticed that when using a starter with either brett, lacto, and /or the white labs sour mix the pellicle forms a lot faster, and it seems to sour up quicker.  Although, once that pellicle forms I try my best not to disturb it.  Another thing to keep in mind, if using a corny keg I try to keep the psi on that keg at a minimum so that the brett does not have to work under pressure. 
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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 02:54:47 PM »
what would you think about taking the posts off and covering them with aluminum foil?

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 04:08:29 PM »
Do you have the "wildBREWS" book? Check out page 220.  The wooden tuns used by the belgian brewers really aren't all that permeable. According to their chart, a vinyl tube blow off (theirs was 11 inches long) was the closest match.  I've noticed that several brewers seem to have had success with silicone stoppers. A blowoff could be attached to your gas post among other options.  Relax, Have fun with it and swap a bottle or two with me in a few years.

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 04:45:06 PM »
I secondary brett beers all the time in cornies, but I've never done a sour in a corny.
I'd really just rather be brewing in sunny Carlsbad New Mexico

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 05:57:47 PM »
I've got my first brett beer secondary in the corny...its been in there for about 2 months...

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 07:16:44 PM »
what would you think about taking the posts off and covering them with aluminum foil?

I personally like to keep things sealed just to be on the safe side. At my house there are a lot of bugs. I would be too sacred that the the bugs would make their way into the corny some how.  Not to mention when there are significant temperature fluctuations, air/oxygen might make its way into your beer (I presume way too much air might make it's way in to the corny, when compared to barrel aging). I think it would be a better idea to release pressure by purging the corny once in a while.  I have my 2 year old lambic aging in a sealed 5 gal corny with no problem.  But, I do have to mention I have already removed the beer from the fruit.

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 04:44:59 PM »
Does anyone secondary/sour beers with Brett, Pedio, or Lacto in a corny? If so, how do you set it up so that it gets the little bit of oxygen that it needs to sour correctly?

The one time I tried it, I sealed everything up and just pulled the release valve every so often.  I thought it came out really well - it was a black saison to which I added the dregs of two bottles of Orval.

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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 05:11:16 PM »
Does anyone secondary/sour beers with Brett, Pedio, or Lacto in a corny? If so, how do you set it up so that it gets the little bit of oxygen that it needs to sour correctly?

The one time I tried it, I sealed everything up and just pulled the release valve every so often.  I thought it came out really well - it was a black saison to which I added the dregs of two bottles of Orval.

How long did you age it?  I had a Tripel finish out high over a year ago and pitched dregs from two bottles of Orval into it in secondary.  It's gone thru some not pleasant phases (plastic/phenolic flavors) and now is starting to taste pretty nice.  I added some French Oak for good measure recently and am going to keg soon and see how it goes.  I am looking forward to how it develops.
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Re: Brett, Bugs Secondary in Corny
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2010, 01:04:52 PM »
I racked it into the serving keg after 6 months, though it reached terminal gravity after 3.  I thought it tasted pretty good at 3 months; I could have probably just kegged it then.