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refrigerator versus chest freezer
« on: November 05, 2010, 09:44:32 AM »
Having just started in the home arena, I have noticed many fellow brewers use small chest freezers for home brew refrigerators. Why is this?

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 10:08:38 AM »
I like the kegerator setup of a chest freezer better than a regular fridge.  If it is for just keeping bottles, I think the fridge would work better.  Maybe they got the freezer first but are saving up for the kegging system.
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 12:43:43 PM »
I can't speak for others but in my case the chest freezer works great for 4 cornies and it was pretty cheap.  Also easy to put a collar on it to mount taps and easy to add an external temp controller to.

Before I started kegging I had a small dorm fridge to keep bottles in.  Basically the same reasons.  Cheap, easy and low maintenance.  Sold it after we replace the fridge in the kitchen.  Brought the old kitchen frdige downstairs with dreams of using it to lager.  Last time I looked in it, it was full of pop and juice boxes.   ::)

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 12:48:16 PM »
Having just started in the home arena, I have noticed many fellow brewers use small chest freezers for home brew refrigerators. Why is this?

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 12:50:37 PM »
One big plus for chest freezers is that when you open it up, all the cold are doesn't 'fall out' as it does in a fridge. If you go the extra mile & mount taps, then this isn't really important. But if you're opening it to use picnic taps then it's a consideration.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 12:55:25 PM »
Always remember the flip side is that we are using the chest freezer as either an ferm chamber or fridge chamber. It was not designed for that and eventually it will break. At what rate I haven't a clue. I've had my 14 CF chest freezer for 13 years and it still works. I bought a 22CF Kenmore freezer back in '04 and the compressor died in '06. Go figure!

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 12:59:51 PM »
Always remember the flip side is that we are using the chest freezer as either an ferm chamber or fridge chamber. It was not designed for that and eventually it will break. At what rate I haven't a clue. I've had my 14 CF chest freezer for 13 years and it still works. I bought a 22CF Kenmore freezer back in '04 and the compressor died in '06. Go figure!
If you're using a chest freezer at ridge temps, that should extend rather than shorten the life span of the unit.  You are stressing the mechanical components less than if you were trying to freeze it.
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 01:07:15 PM »
What kills compressors is short cycling. Just make sure you have the control adjusted properly to prevent this.

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 01:10:18 PM »
What kills compressors is short cycling. Just make sure you have the control adjusted properly to prevent this.

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 01:22:33 PM »
What kills compressors is short cycling. Just make sure you have the control adjusted properly to prevent this.

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Most external digital 'fridge thermostats has a 'differential' adjustment.  If you set this very low, it will keep really tight control of the temp, but the compress will cycle on and off frequently.  Setting it higher should extend compressor life.
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 01:44:05 PM »
How about "fuzzy logic"? Is this the same as "differential" adjustment?
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 02:32:22 PM »
What kills compressors is short cycling. Just make sure you have the control adjusted properly to prevent this.

more detail, please!

Most external digital 'fridge thermostats has a 'differential' adjustment.  If you set this very low, it will keep really tight control of the temp, but the compress will cycle on and off frequently.  Setting it higher should extend compressor life.

Most of them also have an anti-short cycle delay which lets you program a minimum interval between cycles.

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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 06:01:24 PM »
I have two chest freezers or "keezers" as some call them, one is in the process of being converted into a kegerator and the second one I use for a "fermentation control chamber".  I use a Johnson digital controller to regulate the temps. Most chest freezers need to be fitted with a collar in order to maximize the space and allow for the height of corny kegs. I prefer the chests over refrigerators because they can fit more kegs and...IMO are easier to maintain.
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2010, 07:55:29 PM »
Looked hard at the freezers...... but between getting one and the thermostat setup it was too much $$. They're flying off the shelf on Craigslist here.....

So, I got a Sears fridge, up/down, freezer down. This way you don't have the hump in the bottom of the fridge. Took out all the shelves and it will fit 6 cornies easily, pin or ball with plenty of head space for plumbing. Taps are going in the door, there's no risk of running into refrigerant lines in the door.

Craigslist, $50 out the door, no additional electronics required.
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Re: refrigerator versus chest freezer
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2010, 08:58:24 PM »
Looked hard at the freezers...... but between getting one and the thermostat setup it was too much $$. They're flying off the shelf on Craigslist here.....

So, I got a Sears fridge, up/down, freezer down. This way you don't have the hump in the bottom of the fridge. Took out all the shelves and it will fit 6 cornies easily, pin or ball with plenty of head space for plumbing. Taps are going in the door, there's no risk of running into refrigerant lines in the door.

Craigslist, $50 out the door, no additional electronics required.

Jeez. No-ones giving stuff away around here like that. How many cf?
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