[beveragebob]

I was hoping to get ~ 500-100lbs of wine grapes down here in S. New Mexico but, even though there;s vines down here planted before anyone knew where California was, I could not persuade any growers to sell me any. Now I'm considering buying a bunch of persimmon juice from Wally World and making some wine out of that. 

[morticaixavier]

I was hoping to get ~ 500-100lbs of wine grapes down here in S. New Mexico but, even though there;s vines down here planted before anyone knew where California was, I could not persuade any growers to sell me any. Now I'm considering buying a bunch of persimmon juice from Wally World and making some wine out of that. 

I lived in your area for a while (Silver city) Have you tried a hard cherry cider? might be yummy

[beveragebob]

Hard Cherry Cider sounds good but, after living in California for 20 years....I really miss the grape thing.

[morticaixavier]

Hard Cherry Cider sounds good but, after living in California for 20 years....I really miss the grape thing.

yeah I can understand that. My wife wanted to get soem wine grapes from a few growers around here (Bay Area CA) to make some 'varietal' jellies but I couldn't locate any easily so we just bought some local (Solano county) wine and made wine jelly instead. it's pretty yummy. I know you can get the already pressed juice through my LHBS (Oakbarrel) they are one the web you might check that out. Or Napa fermentation supply, don't know if they are on the web. you wouldn't get to press your own but...

[beveragebob]

I was in the S.F Bay area and have shopped at those places you mentioned. Actually, I still own my house in Livermore. There's like 50 wineries there now.