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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #270 on: May 31, 2011, 09:58:39 AM »
We make plenty of chicken, and keep carcasses in our freezer, along w/ beef bones and pork shanks that may come along.  I always refer to the stuff I make as Stock, honestly we boil it down far enough that it becomes almost Aspic-like (Hooray meat jello!).  I assumed that Broth just meant the commercial stuff normally fortified w/ way too much salt. 

You're making stock and then turning it into demi-glace.  Instant sauce flavor booster.

If you use bones with a lot of connective tissue, you can get stocks that have a high gelatin content.  Make chicken stock and throw in some chicken wings when you do it.  After you cool it in the fridge, it has a consistency of jello.  Warmed up, no problem.  Stocks can give quite a bit of body to sauces this way, which is one reason why I object to those definitions of them being 'thin'.  If they mean 'not reduced' then that's one thing.  But something with that much body isn't thin.
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #271 on: June 03, 2011, 07:48:43 AM »
I recently did that with the veal bones/aromatics/braising liquid from some Osso Buco.  I've made a couple of pan sauces using it and they have been fantastic.  Just bursting with flavor without bursting with salt.  Similar to the stock/broth confusion, I may still be getting my terms mixed up.  Some sources made it sound like you had to use Sauce Espagnole to make demi-glace, of which the brown roux is a big part (also has some tomato).  Sauce Espagnole is made with Brown stock so I renamed my 'demi-glace' as a 'brown stock' (hey, I re-classify homebrews all the time  ;)).  I'm still unsure what to call it other than damn tasty.

Homebrew club member gave me some home grown tabasco chilis plus a few habaneros and I need to use 'em up.  I got a pork butt and a dozen tomatillos and some cilantro (I have other typical ingredients).  Looking for ideas.  Tentatively was going to braise the butt and make some sort of roasted tomatillo/chili sauce (no recipe yet).  Serve it over rice but I'm open to suggestions.

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #272 on: June 03, 2011, 08:53:49 AM »
I recently did that with the veal bones/aromatics/braising liquid from some Osso Buco.  I've made a couple of pan sauces using it and they have been fantastic.  Just bursting with flavor without bursting with salt.  Similar to the stock/broth confusion, I may still be getting my terms mixed up.  Some sources made it sound like you had to use Sauce Espagnole to make demi-glace, of which the brown roux is a big part (also has some tomato).  Sauce Espagnole is made with Brown stock so I renamed my 'demi-glace' as a 'brown stock' (hey, I re-classify homebrews all the time  ;)).  I'm still unsure what to call it other than damn tasty.

That's the classic way to make a brown sauce, which is then reduced for demi-glace.  Reading Tony Bourdain's cookbook, he says nobody does that any more (maybe in true classic French kitchens).  They just reduce veal stock.  Maybe people that work in a professional kitchen could comment.
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #273 on: June 03, 2011, 09:11:48 AM »
as I understand it stock is made from bones and other animal bits with lots of connective tissue Broth is the liquid that something has been cooked in, not bones etc. so vegetable stock does not exist. 

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #274 on: June 05, 2011, 01:49:27 PM »
Tonight, a charcoal roasted chicken (not really tandoori style) with a rub of bengali spices, bengali butter rice, toor dal, and chapati, plus a jar of red chilli pickle.  Have a pandora station on with the requisite music, now Kushal Das.  Better get cracking.

Anyway, meant to say...bought a bottle of Rooh Afza sharbat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooh_Afza

Basically, a popular indian summer drink concentrate.  Looks like a koolaid concentrate or something...

But just tried some, and man...do Indians singe their nasal passages or what?  I love their heavy use of spices in cooking, but I got some incense as an extra little gift with a sitar-related order recently, and WOW that stuff has strength, and this rooh afza tastes like incense/perfume.  Man alive!!!!  Not sure I can get through this bottle.  Maybe I'll have acquired the taste by then.

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #275 on: June 07, 2011, 12:00:51 PM »
The loving wife made me schweinshaxe tonight with one of the leftover pork trotters we had from Hopmageddon. Served with spaetzel, bavarian red cabbage (!) and a bottle of Guldenberg biere d'abbaye from De Ranke in Wevelgem. Imagine pulled pork wrapped in pork rinds and you'll get an idea of what this tasted like.





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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #276 on: June 07, 2011, 12:04:02 PM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #277 on: June 07, 2011, 12:07:31 PM »
Looks awesome Phil. :)
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #278 on: June 07, 2011, 12:20:06 PM »
Man that looks good Phil!  Southern cooking (Southern Germany).

Part of the key to making good spätzle is the way you cut it and drop the dough into the water.  My wife learned a method from her mom using two spoons to cut the dumplings.  I brought one of these home one day and she's been using it instead of two spoons.

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #279 on: June 07, 2011, 12:27:13 PM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.
Our local German restaurant (and good beer bar) uses chicken stock instead of water for theirs.  I don't know if that affects the consistency, but they taste good.
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #280 on: June 07, 2011, 01:48:28 PM »
Man that looks good Phil!  Southern cooking (Southern Germany).

Part of the key to making good spätzle is the way you cut it and drop the dough into the water.  My wife learned a method from her mom using two spoons to cut the dumplings.  I brought one of these home one day and she's been using it instead of two spoons.

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Wife used my ricer. More difficult than a spatzlehobel but not a unitasker ;-)
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #281 on: June 07, 2011, 01:49:57 PM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/German-Spaetzle-Dumplings/Detail.aspx
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #282 on: June 07, 2011, 03:38:48 PM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/German-Spaetzle-Dumplings/Detail.aspx
cool will have to try that this summer with some fake sausage

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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #283 on: June 07, 2011, 06:46:49 PM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/German-Spaetzle-Dumplings/Detail.aspx

This looks like a good recipe. I think I'll give it a try sometime. I love spaetzle with green beans.
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Re: What's For Dinner?
« Reply #284 on: June 08, 2011, 04:09:55 AM »
What's the recipe for the spaetzle, I always have trouble getting them to hold together and not turn into a pile of goo.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/German-Spaetzle-Dumplings/Detail.aspx

This looks like a good recipe. I think I'll give it a try sometime. I love spaetzle with green beans.

Yeah, I think spaetzle is gonna have to be in regular rotation now. Also the cabbage was absolutely amazing. Not cabbage-y at all, just plain good. http://www.keyingredient.com/recipes/101199/red-cabbage-bavarian-style/
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