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Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« on: November 15, 2010, 10:19:47 AM »
Got a 4 pack of this on Friday. Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years. Reminds me of an RIS, nice roasted characters at 7.5% abv.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 10:27:33 AM »
I read in the latest issue of Zymurgy that they were releasing this to the US. I last had it at the brewery's Public House in Dublin. It is excellent and by far my favorite stout. Can't wait to find it here and try it out!
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 11:03:58 AM »
I had some a few weeks back, I really like it.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 11:38:32 AM »
Picked up a four pack a couple weeks ago myself...

I was definitely not disappointed with this beer!  It reminded me of Guinness on steroids, if you will.  It has a hint of that typical Guinness flavor, but was bigger, roastier, and a little more hoppy (IIRC).  Definitely hope it sticks around!

Of course, at 7.5%ABV, I am starting to wonder what it would be like after 6 months aging...
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 09:39:45 AM »
I was fortunate enough to drink a few of these in Jamaica 6 years ago only to realize that it ruined me for most lower abv stouts.  I honestly have had only a couple of regular Guinness since.  Needless to say I was stoked to find out they were releasing it here in the States.  The article I read said it was going to hit in October so I figured it would 2011 before it got here to the beer wasteland.  To my surprised my local store had it the 1st week of Oct.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 09:50:47 AM »
I'll have to put this one on my list. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 11:56:29 AM »
To add just a little more, I drank the last of the 4-pack last night.

I noticed a little of the "tropical" side of it while sipping it last night...of course, this was after a glass of my American Stout so that may have jacked up my sense of taste a little.  Still a darn good beer, which I thought was even more intriguing after noticing that tropical aspect.

When I say tropical, I mean a perceived sweetness, sort of.  It was not like a milk stout, but it had a richness to it that was most enjoyable.  Definitely picking up some more of this the next time I hit the beer shop!
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 12:00:36 PM »
To add just a little more, I drank the last of the 4-pack last night.

I noticed a little of the "tropical" side of it while sipping it last night...of course, this was after a glass of my American Stout so that may have jacked up my sense of taste a little.  Still a darn good beer, which I thought was even more intriguing after noticing that tropical aspect.

When I say tropical, I mean a perceived sweetness, sort of.  It was not like a milk stout, but it had a richness to it that was most enjoyable.  Definitely picking up some more of this the next time I hit the beer shop!

Don't they use sorghum in this recipe? I thought I read that somewhere about the foreign extra stout. that might account for the perceived sweetness as not all the sugars in molasses are fermentable
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 12:02:06 PM »
Hadn't read that, but I am sure it is possible.  Regardless...TASTY!  ;D
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 12:24:02 PM »
Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years.

Really?!? I bought some in upstate New York last winter....
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 01:19:44 PM »
Don't they use sorghum in this recipe? I thought I read that somewhere about the foreign extra stout. that might account for the perceived sweetness as not all the sugars in molasses are fermentable
I'm confused - they use sorghum and molasses?  Because it reads to me like you're saying sorghum is molasses . . . except it's not.  :-\
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 01:39:40 PM »
Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years.

Really?!? I bought some in upstate New York last winter....


It's always been in the markets here in southern Oregon.

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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 01:44:19 PM »
Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years.

Really?!? I bought some in upstate New York last winter....


It's always been in the markets here in southern Oregon.

I think you guys are thinking of Guinness Extra Stout and not the Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, which is different - 4pks vs. 6pks, 11.2oz bottles vs. 12oz, and about 3% abv or so.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 02:08:06 PM »
Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years.

Really?!? I bought some in upstate New York last winter....


It's always been in the markets here in southern Oregon.

I think you guys are thinking of Guinness Extra Stout and not the Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, which is different - 4pks vs. 6pks, 11.2oz bottles vs. 12oz, and about 3% abv or so.
Actually there are two versions of this beer.  The U.S. version came in at about 6.5% and Foreign Extra at 7.5%.  The stronger one has never been available in the U.S. as far as I know.  I have a bottle from the Cayman Islands that says "Guinness is good for you" right on the label.  You won't see that in the states. 
The draught Guinness in the 11.2 ounce bottles with the widget is an entirely different animal.
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Re: Guinness Foreign Extra Stout
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 02:22:06 PM »
Apparently, this beer has not been available in the American market for 80 years.

Really?!? I bought some in upstate New York last winter....


It's always been in the markets here in southern Oregon.

I think you guys are thinking of Guinness Extra Stout and not the Guinness Foreign Extra Stout, which is different - 4pks vs. 6pks, 11.2oz bottles vs. 12oz, and about 3% abv or so.
Actually there are two versions of this beer.  The U.S. version came in at about 6.5% and Foreign Extra at 7.5%.  The stronger one has never been available in the U.S. as far as I know.  I have a bottle from the Cayman Islands that says "Guinness is good for you" right on the label.  You won't see that in the states.  
The draught Guinness in the 11.2 ounce bottles with the widget is an entirely different animal.

sorry Jeffy - you're wrong  ;) :D.  what we are talking about is the one that is 7.5% that just became available in the US - I bought some last week at Total Wine.  

I'd be surprised that we have it before Tampa, so its probably out there if you want it.
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