Author Topic: Looking at Windows 7 phones  (Read 1019 times)

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Looking at Windows 7 phones
« on: November 28, 2010, 11:07:11 PM »
Anyone have one yet? I'm looking at the LG Quantum or Samsung Focus, but I'm not really sure I like either of them.

So... any windows phone technorati here?
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline glitterbug

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
  • dallas, tx
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 11:28:25 AM »
I have not paid much attention to the windows phone. I switched from iphone to android a few months back and have been very happy.

You should check the forums over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/ they have phone model specific subforums for the models you are looking at.

If you have never seen\used a win7 phone, you may be able to play with it via your computer using the development environment and an emulator: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/20/taking-the-windows-phone-7-series-emulator-for-a-test-drive-vid/ or http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff402563%28VS.92%29.aspx 

Finally, a really long windows phone review: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/reviews/2010/10/windows-phone-7-the-ars-review.ars
A witty saying proves nothing - Voltaire

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 01:43:56 PM »
Cool, reading the ArsTechnica review now.
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline euge

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7658
  • Estilo Casero
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 12:37:51 PM »
I read it (mostly) as well. Haven't handled or seen a phone with it yet, but I like the big buttons. That would work well with my stubby fingers.

The detractor IMO is it's designed/aimed at social network users ie Facebook. Automatic deal killer. But the appeal is there for those that use that sort of nonsense.

The pro as I see it is that it is "a stand alone device" and one doesn't need a PC to fully use it like other devices (iPhone anyone?). This goes along way on my book.

I just don't see it being as flexible or configurable as an Android phone. Furthermore my trust of using anything Microsoft was shot long ago. I figure windows 7 will show it's instability and insecurity as time progresses.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. -Richard P. Feynman

Offline glitterbug

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
  • dallas, tx
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 01:09:16 PM »
I just don't see it being as flexible or configurable as an Android phone.

You could do some crazy things with WM devices. Hopefully the 7 phones will continue the tradition.




A witty saying proves nothing - Voltaire

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 01:53:49 PM »
The detractor IMO is it's designed/aimed at social network users ie Facebook. Automatic deal killer. But the appeal is there for those that use that sort of nonsense.
I've heard this criticism before, but I've yet to hear with any specificity how, exactly, their FB integration detracts from the device's overall functionality. In other words, I don't see how it's especially true, or if it were, how it's relevant. Not trying to be a fanboy, but if you have anything specific in mind I'd like to hear it.

I just don't see it being as flexible or configurable as an Android phone.
Maybe. MS did set rigid hardware guidelines at the outset, so my suspicion is that they simply haven't written the APIs for the accelerometer, compass, and camera for all the OEMs yet. My instinct tells me they will, because there doesn't seem to be any business or political reason not to, and they'll be necessary for a competitive apps market. Also, it's not the UI clusterduck that Android is, so ya takes the good and takes the bad, I suppose.

The one thing that does concern me is the lack of tethering and hotspotting support. That does seem like something important that just might never materialize.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2010, 01:55:41 PM by MrNate »
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline Thirsty_Monk

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2205
  • Eau Claire WI
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 01:57:46 PM »
Anyone have one yet? I'm looking at the LG Quantum or Samsung Focus, but I'm not really sure I like either of them.

So... any windows phone technorati here?
Do you feel like rebooting your phone every day?
Na Zdravie

On Tap At The TapRoom:
Bohemian Pilsner
Bohemian Dark Lager
Smoked Bock
MaiBock
American Brown Ale
Marzen
Root beer

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 02:00:59 PM »
Anyone have one yet? I'm looking at the LG Quantum or Samsung Focus, but I'm not really sure I like either of them.

So... any windows phone technorati here?
Do you feel like rebooting your phone every day?
No, will I have to?
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline Thirsty_Monk

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2205
  • Eau Claire WI
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 02:24:39 PM »
Anyone have one yet? I'm looking at the LG Quantum or Samsung Focus, but I'm not really sure I like either of them.

So... any windows phone technorati here?
Do you feel like rebooting your phone every day?
No, will I have to?
Friend of mine used to have Windows phone (T-mobile carrier) and that was what he ended up doing.
Phone was locking up all the time.
Na Zdravie

On Tap At The TapRoom:
Bohemian Pilsner
Bohemian Dark Lager
Smoked Bock
MaiBock
American Brown Ale
Marzen
Root beer

Offline glitterbug

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
  • dallas, tx
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 03:21:36 PM »
Anyone have one yet? I'm looking at the LG Quantum or Samsung Focus, but I'm not really sure I like either of them.

So... any windows phone technorati here?
Do you feel like rebooting your phone every day?
No, will I have to?

Some phones on the old "Windows Mobile" platform needed to be rebooted. The new "Windows Phone" is a brand new platform built from scratch and should not have the same problems as the old platform.
A witty saying proves nothing - Voltaire

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 03:27:57 PM »
Some phones on the old "Windows Mobile" platform needed to be rebooted. The new "Windows Phone" is a brand new platform built from scratch and should not have the same problems as the old platform.

Still the CE kernel, though. Not to mention that frequent reboots often indicate driver issues, and this is 1st gen firmware. I was really hoping to find someone who had either of the 2 specific devices I was considering. I'm not a huge fan of heresay.

Well, now that I think about it IE has historically been pretty leaky, though not as bad as Mozilla. That's another thing I'm not really happy about. If I could run Chrome on WP7, I'd be much happier.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2010, 03:33:53 PM by MrNate »
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline Thirsty_Monk

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2205
  • Eau Claire WI
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 03:46:18 PM »
I did not mean to burst your bubble.

Also my wife had a Trio on Sprint.
What a piece of junk that was.
Na Zdravie

On Tap At The TapRoom:
Bohemian Pilsner
Bohemian Dark Lager
Smoked Bock
MaiBock
American Brown Ale
Marzen
Root beer

Offline glitterbug

  • Assistant Brewer
  • ***
  • Posts: 234
  • dallas, tx
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 04:15:46 PM »
I was really hoping to find someone who had either of the 2 specific devices I was considering. I'm not a huge fan of heresay.

Ask around in the sub forums at xda. I'm sure someone there can give you an honest review from a end user perspective.
quantum forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=821
focus forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=780


A witty saying proves nothing - Voltaire

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2010, 06:04:32 PM »
I was really hoping to find someone who had either of the 2 specific devices I was considering. I'm not a huge fan of heresay.

Ask around in the sub forums at xda. I'm sure someone there can give you an honest review from a end user perspective.
quantum forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=821
focus forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=780

I couldn't wait for Christmas. I just picked up the Focus, and man is it awesome!
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline euge

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7658
  • Estilo Casero
    • View Profile
Re: Looking at Windows 7 phones
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 09:29:47 PM »
Well to be honest I'd like to mess with the phone some just to see how it is. My xenophobic tendencies leave me with a distrust of anything integrated with sites such as Facebook.  But it is popular so why not have the features people want?  MS is just appealing to their potential customers. Bouef. 
I was really hoping to find someone who had either of the 2 specific devices I was considering. I'm not a huge fan of heresay.

Ask around in the sub forums at xda. I'm sure someone there can give you an honest review from a end user perspective.
quantum forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=821
focus forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=780

I couldn't wait for Christmas. I just picked up the Focus, and man is it awesome!

Let us know more!

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. -Richard P. Feynman