[denny]

So you got more sugar into the fermenter than existed in the grain?  I knew you were good, Rob!

[kerneldustjacket]

As the guy who started this mess, my 109% was calculated as brewhouse efficiency, meaning that's the sugars I got into the fermenter.

No worries about the mess Rob... ...it's all been fun.

What it all boils down to is that boiling does not increase efficiency!

[Mikey]

If I could get 109 angels, who work for Victoria, to dance around my fermenter, I'm sure the size of my efficiency would increase, but if not that, then something else.

[kerneldustjacket]

If I could get 109 angels, who work for Victoria, to dance around my fermenter, I'm sure the size of my efficiency would increase, but if not that, then something else.

<whisper mode on> Sshshhhhh...not so loud Mikey...I have my wife conveinced that the efficiency size dosen't matter, 'cause my efficiency is small (71% no sparge). Don't go giving her any ideas  <whisper mode off>

[bluesman]

The efficiency is the same pre-boil or post-boil. So the boil has no effect AT ALL on efficiency because sugars are conserved.

Agreed.

I like to think of brewhouse efficiency in terms of:

brewhouse efficiency=conversion efficiency*lautering efficiency

because if we were all lucky enough to acheive 100% conversion AND also lauter every single drop....we would have 100% brewhouse effiency. Of course this is virtually impossible but it proves out the calculation.

[brushvalleybrewer]

Okay. I’ve managed to follow along so far, but somebody tell me…

Does boiling affect efficiency? 

[MDixon]

No, boiling does not affect efficiency... 

Mashouse efficiency is what you get out of the mash/lauter vs theoretical.

Brewhouse incorporates all the loses due to transfer.

Neither is affected by boiling...

[bluesman]

Okay. I’ve managed to follow along so far, but somebody tell me…

Does boiling affect efficiency?  

Boil time is not used to calculate efficiency. Boiling rate only affects the final volume of the wort.

[hopfenundmalz]

Okay. I’ve managed to follow along so far, but somebody tell me…

Does boiling affect efficiency? 

This might be the funniest post in a funny tread.  OK, I have have a few tonight.

Boiling has no influence on efficiency.

[Mikey]

If I could get 109 angels, who work for Victoria, to dance around my fermenter, I'm sure the size of my efficiency would increase, but if not that, then something else.

<whisper mode on> Sshshhhhh...not so loud Mikey...I have my wife conveinced that the efficiency size dosen't matter, 'cause my efficiency is small (71% no sparge). Don't go giving her any ideas   <whisper mode off>

Your secret is safe with me and the rest of the internet.

[maxieboy]

Okay. I’ve managed to follow along so far, but somebody tell me…

Does boiling affect efficiency? 

This might be the funniest post in a funny tread.  OK, I have have a few tonight.

Boiling has no influence on efficiency.

Have have ya?  Me to.

[tubercle]

Sounds like he needs needs some more

[SiameseMoose]

So you got more sugar into the fermenter than existed in the grain?  I knew you were good, Rob!

You should go visit De Konick, in Antwerp. They claim 130%!

[denny]

So you got more sugar into the fermenter than existed in the grain?  I knew you were good, Rob!

You should go visit De Konick, in Antwerp. They claim 130%!

That's how they make money, man.  They get 30% of the sugar back from every batch, so about every 3rd batch is free!   

[jeffy]

So you got more sugar into the fermenter than existed in the grain?  I knew you were good, Rob!

You should go visit De Konick, in Antwerp. They claim 130%!

That's how they make money, man.  They get 30% of the sugar back from every batch, so about every 3rd batch is free!   

I'll bet they boil for a long time, too.