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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 01:32:45 PM »
You also have to keep in mind that message boards, like this one, are more akin to casual conversation rather than formal writing.

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Oh dang, and here I thunk we were righten the modern Federalist Papers...

I was always perplexed by the who/whom differentiation.  So I did some research and found a test for the proper usage of the two.
And you're just going to keep that to yourself, eh?

Yep.  As the saying goes, "You learn more and remember better if you look it up for yourself."

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That's fine, I don't care enough to look it up ;D

Whom would you have look it up for you?
Who do you think?

That should be WHOM do you think...
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 01:40:04 PM »
"Whom the f**k do you think you are?" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2010, 01:40:52 PM »
OK, the quotes are getting too large...... ;D
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2010, 01:44:55 PM »
Whom would you have look it up for you?
Who do you think?
That should be WHOM do you think...
So you say, but without any evidence it is just a baseless assertion. ;)
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 01:46:51 PM »
OK - OK a hint...
Subject vs object.

And, I was hoping to get a quote big enough to fill an entire page.  (is there a horizontal quote limit?  If so, what happens at excedence?)
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2010, 02:15:13 PM »
And, I was hoping to get a quote big enough to fill an entire page.  (is there a horizontal quote limit?  If so, what happens at excedence?)

It seems like it's 15 posts per page, regardless of length.

OK - OK a hint...
Subject vs object.
That would require you to be able to correctly identify the subject of the sentence, which you seem to have failed to do.  So the answer to "Who do you think (should look it up for me)" is you, because you need more practice ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2010, 02:18:41 PM »
"Whom the f**k do you think you are?" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Plus it's wrong. :)
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2010, 03:37:07 PM »
"Whom the f**k do you think you are?" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Plus it's wrong. :)
I think not.  Something about a rule with the verb "to be" the subject and object are the same tense or something.  Who can remember grade school?
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2010, 04:27:25 PM »
"Whom the f**k do you think you are?" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Plus it's wrong. :)
I think not.  Something about a rule with the verb "to be" the subject and object are the same tense or something.  Who can remember grade school?


Whom do you love?  <----- CORRECT.  I love him.  Him is the object, so it is whom.

Whom do you think you are?  <------ INCORRECT.  This one is tricky.  The verb "to be" (are) is a linking verb, and it links a subject and its compliment noun.  It cannot have an object.  The answer would be "I think I am he", hence you would use who here.  This is the same reason that you should say "This is he" when someone asks for you on the phone.

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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2010, 04:50:05 PM »
Oh, go intercourse thyself.  ;D
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2010, 05:16:26 PM »
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2010, 06:31:23 PM »
What's going on around here?   ::)


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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2010, 06:33:51 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I like to work "cellular telephone" into everyday communication.

As in, "I'm headed to the store. Give me a call on my cellular telephone if you need anything."
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Re: Language Revived
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Re: Language Revived
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2010, 11:08:09 PM »
Here's a nice sign at work that's been up for months:



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