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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #120 on: January 03, 2011, 05:12:06 pm »
Scanned? For real. Now that is bad.

Sad but true. Though they claim the info will only be used foir evidence against a DUI arrest.

It was the only way the legislature would allow a change in our "private-club" laws.

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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #121 on: January 03, 2011, 06:29:07 pm »
Hmm, federal funds pay for many major highways. Since I have to pay taxes and have little to say as to where my particular taxes go, I would consider it more of a right than a privilege.

Your taxes fund universities too, but you still can't get in without good grades.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #122 on: January 03, 2011, 06:56:32 pm »
Hmm, federal funds pay for many major highways. Since I have to pay taxes and have little to say as to where my particular taxes go, I would consider it more of a right than a privilege.

Your taxes fund universities too, but you still can't get in without good grades.

Unless you go to an SEC school!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #123 on: January 03, 2011, 07:30:49 pm »
Scanned? For real. Now that is bad.

But wait, scanners were invented after the Constitution was written...
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #124 on: January 03, 2011, 08:12:34 pm »
Ha, ha, ya got me there.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2011, 08:16:05 pm »
I can.  And although I find this objectionable, it's not clear that it violates the constitution. 

US Constitution - Amendment 4 - Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


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What part of being on the road on Saturday night when the bars close and refusing a breath test is not probable cause for a warrant?

You are kidding, right?  You're saying that just by driving a car at a particular time of day makes you suspicious and gives the authorities the power to detain you against your will and take blood from you against your will?

That kinda sucks for people who a driving to or from work don't you think?  Perhaps they should be required to carry a note from their employer, "Please excuse (your name here) from having his civil rights violated.  He is on his way home from work."

No I do not think driving at a certain time alone is probable cause. That is why I used the word and.

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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #126 on: January 03, 2011, 08:45:24 pm »
...but scanning the license is not even debatable cause that is clearly an invasion of privacy.

 When you are driving you are in public and responsible to the public. Just like pissing in the alley. The police peering down the alley to see if you are pissing is not an invasion of your rights.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #127 on: January 04, 2011, 07:49:10 am »
Near where I live there is a liquor store that scans license and finger prints and takes a picture of you. But it doesn’t do that to everybody. Maybe only to customers who appear to be under the age of 30. But that is the only store in the area that does this. Maybe it’s a town law or their insurance mandates it.

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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #128 on: January 04, 2011, 08:11:10 am »
In Chicago there was a liquor store just off the Belmont red line that did the same thing. They scanned my DL to, I guess, make sure it was valid, although I'm 26 and look it. They had a security guard in there, too, and you had to buzz the door to get in, so go figure.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #129 on: January 04, 2011, 08:54:57 am »
I think a lot of states are starting to incorporate bar codes into licenses, to crack down on forgeries. And bars and liquor stores scanning the license to do an age check makes sense. If they're actually going beyond that and storing information on your drinking habits, though... wow.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #130 on: January 04, 2011, 08:58:52 am »
I guess the true sign you are getting old is when you are no longer asked for ID anymore...one of the local sports facilities cards everyone...makes me feel young again  ;)
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #131 on: January 04, 2011, 09:16:55 am »
I guess the true sign you are getting old is when you are no longer asked for ID anymore...one of the local sports facilities cards everyone...makes me feel young again  ;)

I girl at the grocery store asked for my ID recently and then said, "just kidding!"
A good way to make me feel bad.....
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #132 on: January 04, 2011, 09:22:41 am »
Here in Savannah Georgia, they now require anyone who serves alcohol to have a server's permit; no permit, no serving...serve someone underage, no permit.

Also, on January 1st, smoking became banned inside any bar/restaurant, including a radius of ten feet around any doors on the facility.

And Mike, yes it does feel good to get carded when you clearly look older than 21...well, older than 40 lets say.  :)
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #133 on: January 04, 2011, 11:14:02 am »
I guess the true sign you are getting old is when you are no longer asked for ID anymore...one of the local sports facilities cards everyone...makes me feel young again  ;)

Or what happened to my wife and I.  We went to the movies a few weeks ago and the kid ringing up our tickets said "Senior rate, right?".  Oops.
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Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tamp
« Reply #134 on: January 04, 2011, 11:18:05 am »
I guess the true sign you are getting old is when you are no longer asked for ID anymore...one of the local sports facilities cards everyone...makes me feel young again  ;)

I girl at the grocery store asked for my ID recently and then said, "just kidding!"
A good way to make me feel bad.....

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