[1vertical]

I been lookin on Google and not much stands out as a historical
chart over the years, seems in my memory that this is one of the few
that early spring is supposed to cometh....

[tschmidlin]

It depends on which groundhog you're talking about . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punxsutawney_Phil#Past_predictions

[1vertical]

Thanks Tom,
Seems somehow, my memory is missing most of those early spring predictions...
hmmmmm.....whyoming winters are brutal.

[tschmidlin]

He's not all that accurate anyway.  Of course there have been many Phil's, maybe some had better luck than others  . . .

[hopfenundmalz]

My wife's grandfather had a saying. 

If he sees his shadow it is 6 more weeks of winter, if he does not see his shadow it is 6 weeks until spring.   

[maxieboy]

My wife's grandfather had a saying. 

If he sees his shadow it is 6 more weeks of winter, if he does not see his shadow it is 6 weeks until spring.   

Certainly applies to Michigan.

[oscarvan]

As to his accuracy, according to the StormFax Weather Almanac and records kept since 1887, Phil's predictions have been correct 39% of the time.

Sounds like betting agains him is the way to go.......crap, I'lll run out of wood pellets.....

[pinnah]

....whyoming winters are brutal.

Wooeeee!  -29 windchill here this morning.

Almost skeered to hear what you got there!

[punatic]

As to his accuracy, according to the StormFax Weather Almanac and records kept since 1887, Phil's predictions have been correct 39% of the time.

Sounds like betting agains him is the way to go.......crap, I'lll run out of wood pellets.....

He's doing better than Algore... 

[jamminbrew]

If we have to designate it a "ground" hog, that distinction would lend itself to there being an "air" hog too...  maybe pigs do fly!

[rabid_dingo]

Isn't it 6 weeks until the actual start of Spring from 2Feb...?

[a10t2]

Isn't it 6 weeks until the actual start of Spring from 2Feb...?

47 or 48 days, so more like seven weeks, but pretty much.

[hopfenundmalz]

Isn't it 6 weeks until the actual start of Spring from 2Feb...?

47 or 48 days, so more like seven weeks, but pretty much.

When do the locals say that spring comes to Silverton, weather wise?   You are not that far north, but at high altitude.  Just interested.

[a10t2]

When do the locals say that spring comes to Silverton, weather wise?

We have two seasons, tourist season and off-season. The train starts running in May.

Seriously though, snow in early June isn't unheard of.

[rabid_dingo]

When do the locals say that spring comes to Silverton, weather wise?

We have two seasons, tourist season and off-season. The train starts running in May.

Seriously though, snow in early June isn't unheard of.

Or July even. A-Basin shoots to close the slopes on the 4th every year...then it's only two months before it starts falling on the divide...This year with the totals they've had they should make it to the fourth with no problem...