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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 09:52:58 am »
Here in Des Moines (or there-abouts) we had a 2' drift across the drive that was 25' wide and 50' long.  The snow blower was even starting to choke on it because it was packed so tight (40 to 50 mph gust for 24 hours).  My drive took about 45 minutes.  2 hours after that I had all the new, young neighbors, who didn't have a clue what to do with the 4' of snowplow drift at the end of the drive, dug out.

Luckily it was a balmy -5F at the time.  Gawd, I love Iowa!  ;)

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 10:14:28 am »
I was in Aspen about 12 years ago - they had heated sidewalks in part of the town, very nice for walking.  If you get your driveway redone it's something to think about :)
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 10:32:45 am »
I was in Aspen about 12 years ago - they had heated sidewalks in part of the town, very nice for walking.  If you get your driveway redone it's something to think about :)

Oh trust me, I've looked in to it. Problem is the cheap installation (electric) will send the meter spinning so hard it will disintegrate or, if you do a geothermal system you will spend a lot of money on the installation. Either way you can pay someone to plow you out for decades for that money.
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 11:08:43 am »
Hot water pipes?

I just prefer my method - stay home until the snow goes away.  Usually within a day in my area, but sometimes it takes 3 days. :)
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 11:21:19 am »
I think it was about 0.25" that we got last night. It's enough to freak out the clueless. I'm sure the ER's are full of MVC's.

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2011, 11:23:35 am »
A heated driveway seems like it would be really cool.  Unfortunately there are issues that are more serious than cost to operate.  With 2 feet of packed snow and sub-zero temps, it would take a very long time to melt off the drive.  Once it was melted off, there wouldn't be anywhere for the water to go and it would just freeze in the street.

Downtown Des Moines put in some heated sidewalks last year.  If I understand things correctly, they still need to clean the big layers of snow off but the heaters keep them from icing up.  It makes them safer but doesn't, necessarily, mean no shoveling.  It was also used as a campaign attack during the 2010 elections.  'Insert name of sitting councilman' voted to spend your tax dollars on heated sidewalks.  Can you trust someone willing to WASTE YOUR TAX DOLLARS in that way?   8)

I like the force field over the city idea.  Flame throwers would be fun too.

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2011, 12:59:39 pm »
It wasn't so much the 8" of standing snow (I can drive over that) as much as the 2'+ drift blocking the garage... (Central OK for anyone interested).

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 01:23:03 pm »

I just prefer my method - stay home until the snow goes away. 

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2011, 04:12:33 pm »

I just prefer my method - stay home until the snow goes away. 

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My shadow does not fall on the mainland between October and April.
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Hey, I heard a report last week or so that only ONE state in the US did not have snow on the ground.

Florida...Probably because the highest elevation in Florida is probably in an appartment building...
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2011, 04:16:52 pm »
Florida...Probably because the highest elevation in Florida is probably in an appartment building...

Actually that would be Britton Hill, the lowest highest point of any state. It's a whopping 345 feet above sea level! (In contrast my childhood home was the highest in the neighborhood at 16 feet above sea level!)

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2011, 06:45:24 pm »
A heated driveway seems like it would be really cool.  Unfortunately there are issues that are more serious than cost to operate.  With 2 feet of packed snow and sub-zero temps, it would take a very long time to melt off the drive.

  Hate to sound like a know it all,but I do HAVC. Heated sidewalks are quite common here in NE Ohio, among the rich. It is basically radiant floor heat. Pipes in the cement with hot water circfulating in them. THe snw' ice melts on contact, so there is virtually no time that it takes to wait for it to melt, as it never has a chance to freeze. It's a really nice system. Not cheap to have installed, or operate, but if you got the $, why not? 
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2011, 11:07:42 pm »
I think it was about 0.25" that we got last night. It's enough to freak out the clueless. I'm sure the ER's are full of MVC's.

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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2011, 11:40:33 pm »
I think it was about 0.25" that we got last night. It's enough to freak out the clueless. I'm sure the ER's are full of MVC's.

euge, did your sago palm bite the big one?

Nope. Has some snow on still but she's ok. Brrr it is cold and icy. A balmy 27F...
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2011, 04:38:42 am »
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Re: I hate shoveling snow!
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 10:06:13 am »
Grew up in MI shoveling snow every year. Dad never bought us a snow blower cause he had me! Moved to Phoenix in 96. We have a saying out here: You dont have to shovel sunshine!
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