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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 06:44:55 PM »
:o :o

wow oscarvan speaks and the gods answer back.  oscarvan, is your face glowing?  :)

Yeah, oscar from pennsylvania! That was you in Ask the Experts(Chris White and JZ), right?

Uh, um, eh, uh yeah....... that could would probably was me...... ::)

Oscar...you are a man of character if I must say so myself.  ;)
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 09:57:37 PM »
:o :o

wow oscarvan speaks and the gods answer back.  oscarvan, is your face glowing?  :)

Yeah, oscar from pennsylvania! That was you in Ask the Experts(Chris White and JZ), right?

Uh, um, eh, uh yeah....... that could would probably was me...... ::)

Oscar...you are a man of character if I must say so myself.  ;)

Now you have me blushing......
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 09:38:41 AM »
I'm here. and now following this topic.

Woohoo! Surely the mods can do better than 1st kit!

Yeah, I agree, that needs to be changed to Brewing Buddha or something! But that's an Admin's job, I don't know how to do anything like that.

I looked and I couldn't see how to do it.  But I bet Drew can figure it out.
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 09:40:24 AM »

Oscar...you are a man of character if I must say so myself.  ;)

Now you have me blushing......

I think Ron meant to say "Oscar, you are a character"....;)
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 10:20:11 AM »

Oscar...you are a man of character if I must say so myself.  ;)

Now you have me blushing......

I think Ron meant to say "Oscar, you are a character"....;)

 :D  ;D
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 11:26:20 AM »
re: The recipe, aside from the fact that it has no other grains than barley, really has no impact on the concept, right? I mean I can take my house APA (some 2 row, some crystal malt and some carapils, with simcoe and cascade, wye 1056) and as long as I am using the clarity ferm according to the instructions the result may/should be a negative presence with a gluten test, am I correct?

Yes you are correct.  I've heard from others that their friends had favorably no reactions - at least from empirical observations.  No real tests done...

And you're right I'm not a doctor nor giving any medical advice.  Just observations.

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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 11:32:22 AM »
Cool, thanks. As said I have ordered the EZ Gluten test, and I will brew a 10G batch, one with and one without the Clarity Ferm then run the tests....we shall see.....
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 11:44:29 AM »
I'm looking forward to hearing the results, not just on the gluten levels, but also on any flavor impact.
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 11:54:54 AM »
I've not encountered ANY flavor impact, nor any impact on great foam stabililty.  The beer should have no or minimal chill haze, 'cause those gluten proteins are the same one's that impart chill haze.   If you read my article thoroughly, the only negative to some folks might be that the enzyme is gmo.  Reread the story for the details. 
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2011, 12:14:47 PM »
That's great to hear. I will pull that Zymurgy back out and reread the story, then get my hands on some Clarity-Ferm.
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2011, 03:01:15 PM »
My LHBS ordered it from White Labs....
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2011, 03:56:21 PM »
Northern Brewer and Brewmasters Warehouse also carry it, for anyone else interested.
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2011, 02:45:14 PM »
Cool, thanks. As said I have ordered the EZ Gluten test, and I will brew a 10G batch, one with and one without the Clarity Ferm then run the tests....we shall see.....
bumping a very old thread here, but Oscar, how did it turn out.  I'm about to brew a GF beer for a beer lover and she's not too crazy about the commercial GF beers.
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2011, 08:03:15 AM »
Cool, thanks. As said I have ordered the EZ Gluten test, and I will brew a 10G batch, one with and one without the Clarity Ferm then run the tests....we shall see.....
bumping a very old thread here, but Oscar, how did it turn out.  I'm about to brew a GF beer for a beer lover and she's not too crazy about the commercial GF beers.
Good call, I'm interested to know the results as well.
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Re: Charlie P.
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2011, 08:29:02 AM »
I'll also be trying some Clarity Ferm in my next beer (all barley) for some gluten-intolerant and celiac friends of mine.

From my own research, you can stamp a 'gluten-free' label in the US if the gluten content is < 20ppm - producing a beer that is even 10ppm (much less, 5ppm like Charlie did) seems that it could let all but the most sensitive enjoy a quality, all-barley beer.  Another interesting test would be to also fine the beer with gelatin post-fermentation, so getting the benefit of the CF in addition to any other clarification gelatin may provide.  One note - beers brewed with Wheat or Rye are probably still not going to get to the 'gluten free' threshold, however.

One note I found on the homebrewchatter forums, was that a guy brewed an Oatmeal Stout with Clarity-Ferm and said the body was noticeably less-full than he expected.  Seems like (and stands to reason), that CF is not discriminant in what proteins it pulls out of the beer, which would even include body-boosting malts and adjuncts.  I'm curious to hear other's experiences over time with this!

another question just popped into my head:  does CF affect yeast in anyway?  Curious if harvesting yeast for future batches after treated with CF would in anyway be negatively affected?
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