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Offline oscarvan

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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 06:33:03 PM »
No.... the Suzuki method of learning the violin, or cello for that matter, is where you learn ONE tune.... (twinkle twinkle little star) and you play it FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES..... UNTIL YOU GET IT RIGHT.... with variations, and rhythm  changes. With lots of fellow students...

My son played TTLS in Carnegie Hall, with 1259 other violins...... I listened to TTLS a lot.....WAAAAAY too much. But he had fun, and he was proud. So in the end that's what matters.

So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 06:51:21 PM »
Ah, just havin' fun. It's why we're here. The methodology is sound...
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 10:39:42 PM »
+1 on Suzuki methods applied to brewing and brewing....and then to drinking, and drinking, and drinking.

I am told it aids with brain development....and makes me better looking.
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 10:42:54 PM »
beer goggles are a well proven technology!
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 10:50:22 PM »
So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.

I'm doing something very similar except I'm switching hops out. Oscar have you noticed any variation- especially since your transition to AG?
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 01:47:18 AM »
When you do the same thing over and over you begin to notice the small stuff that you miss when you change everything each time.  I brewed my all-grain Munich Helles recipe a gozillion times in a row early on in my brewing.  That's when I was able to figure out when starch conversion was complete just by the consistancy of the mash.  It would have taken a lot longer to figure that out if I had brewed a different recipe each time. 

(I prefer to call it the Harley Davidson Method though)   ;)
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Re: Mystery Box?????
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 05:19:21 AM »
So, it was a metaphor. I am brewing the same beer over and over for two reasons. 1: I like it, a lot. 2: I want to learn the effects of subtle changes in process and ingredients, all else remaining the same.

I brew other beers too, but this is the main training event.

I'm doing something very similar except I'm switching hops out. Oscar have you noticed any variation- especially since your transition to AG?

Yes I have noticed variation. But the process has not stabilized yet. I'm all over the road. (Temps, volumes, trub separation) First goal is to do it exactly the same every time. Then start making small changes. Today or tomorrow I'll be doing the fourth AG batch.
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