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Black and Tan
« on: February 20, 2011, 02:56:00 PM »
Haven't had one in a while. Remembered that I liked Harp and Guinness together. Brought home a "Mississippi Mud" for the BBQ. Interesting. Of course it is a blend rather than a floater but it tastes just ok.

Makes me want a real B&T though. How do you make yours?

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 03:04:10 PM »
black & tan is traditionally bass & guinness. the harp & guinness is a half & half. you can make them with any beer of a high enough gravity to allow the lower gravity guinness to float on top of it. having a proper spoon (with the indention to rest on the top the glass) helps, but you can just use an inverted soup spoon.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 03:15:08 PM »
Kind of fond of the black velvet, Cider and Stout. First had it at the Vermont Pub And Brewery. I have also seen it called a snake bite but I always thought that was something else.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 03:48:16 PM »
Just had a Mississippi Mud while brewing today. I enjoyed it, but gotta be honest, bought it mostly for that sweet jug!
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 08:40:31 AM »
black & tan is traditionally bass & guinness. the harp & guinness is a half & half.
This is an important distinction since the Black & Tans were a well-hated British occupying force sent to Ireland during the revolution.  So, a Black & Tan could never be made by mixing two Irish beers.

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 09:06:30 AM »
Kind of fond of the black velvet, Cider and Stout. First had it at the Vermont Pub And Brewery. I have also seen it called a snake bite but I always thought that was something else.

I think Snakebite is lager + cider. Popular with the Brits, so I hear.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 09:17:54 AM »
I like both...either Bass or Harp with Guinness. I haven't tried MM yet.

...but I'll have to keep it mind for the next time I go to the beer store.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 10:15:03 AM »
Try a Yellow Jacket. Boulevard (or Blue Moon) and Guinness.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 10:56:14 AM »
Had a few snakebites yesterday at the Friendly Spot here in San Antonio. Great place to hangout with friends and they have excellent beer selections.

My snakebite was guinness and a pear cider.

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 10:58:10 AM »
Another mixed beer you may want to try is a Summer Shandy.

Another English creation from what ive been told. Great spring and summer drink. Lager mixed with lemondae. I love it.

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 12:30:25 PM »
Kind of fond of the black velvet, Cider and Stout. First had it at the Vermont Pub And Brewery. I have also seen it called a snake bite but I always thought that was something else.

I think Snakebite is lager + cider. Popular with the Brits, so I hear.

That's my understanding too, Phil.  I've also only seen snakebites served on ice (in a pint glass).
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 12:47:52 PM »
When I was a bartender we used to serve snakebites that were Yukon Jack and Roses Lime Juice.
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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 01:29:25 PM »
sounds like they vary by location.

Ive had snake bites at least 5 different places locally and although the cider varies from place to place, its always served with guinness and never on ice.

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 02:52:17 PM »
I'm gonna wade in as the token Brit here, and give my cultural perspective....

Snakebite is cider mixed with lager. Anything goes as far as the ingredients are concerned, but many bars wont serve them. Frequently mixed with blackcurrant cordial to make a purple monster (which is wrong, and instantly identifies the drinker as a student).

Shandy is consumable at anytime of the year, and doesn't tend to have the 'summer' tag. Quite pleasant is a shandy made with and ale and a ginger beer (not American ginger ale) in place of the lemonade.

And...over here a Black Velvet is Guiness and champagne.

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Re: Black and Tan
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 12:49:15 AM »
I like a good shandy. Usually I'll mix a cheap lager with limeade. Orange Fanta and lager is interesting.

So I went for the Half and Half tonight. Harp and Guinness Extra stout. To my disappointment the mix went awry and my splendid black and tan ended up black.

Where was this?



Ahh the reverse pour!




C'mon guys. Let's see your half and half's.
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