Thank you for the guilt ridden

suggestion Denny, cynmar is a great source that I always forget about. Wow martin/tom, 13.75 is indeed a good find.
Martin, I can purchase a gallon from the local 5 star chemical guys for a slightly better price, I wonder if you guys could do the same. I guess I need to find and educate enough local brewers to start a real brewing club, then we can split a gallon too. Cheers, j