After three weeks, my WLP833 starter (3L followed by another 3L) finally looks ready to go. Think I will brew a nice Mexican Vienna in a Negra Modelo vein on Sunday that should be fermented, lagered, and ready to drink at my friend's Cinco de Mayo party in a couple of months. Hopefully three weeks later (March 26 or 27), I will use that yeast cake and split it for a double brew day....Oktoberfest and Maibock.