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Pineapple flavor
« on: March 04, 2011, 08:05:05 PM »
I am sitting here sipping at the gravity sample from my maple barley wine that has been fermenting for the last 11 days and it smells and tastes exactly like pineapple juice. Never experienced this before.

The recipe
25 lbs Gambrinus organic pale malt
1.25 lbs grade A dark amber maple syrup (Vermont)
1 oz organic Ivanhoe at 8% alpha FWH
1 oz ivanhoe at 30 m
1 oz ivanhoe at 15 m
1 oz ivanhoe at 10 m
1 oz ivenhoe at 5 m

added the maple syrup at the end of the boil.

Pitched 90% of a yeast cake of Wyeast 1968 from an IPA. temp was 62 and then dropped down to the upper fifties and has been fairly stable between 64-68 with one brush with 70 for the whole fermentation.

I partigyled this brew and the first runnings plus a little of the second runnings got me my 7 ish gallons pre boil volume while I got 3.5 gallons of small beer at 1.032 hopped with a little left over cascade. The barley wine ended up at 1.097.

There are lots of yeast still in suspension and the gravity is still dropping (the BW down to 1.016 the small beer 1.002!)

but man it's like drinking Pineapple juice. The mouth feel is even thick and rich kind of like pineapple juice and rum.

Any ideas? is this an infection? Just the hops or yeast?
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 11:52:16 PM »
Looks like it is probably the hops. We will see how it turns out in the end.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 03:50:11 AM »
Had a string of bitters back in 07 tasted exactly like ruby red grapefruit juice. Unbelievable. It was a combination of columbus and cascade at 60 40 and 20. I say it's the hops.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 05:25:54 AM »
Could be the hops. I'm not familiar with Ivanhoe, but I've had beers that are heavily C-hopped that have a huge grapefruit presence. Don't know if Ivanhoe has any pineapple tropical fruit character. Did you pick up any of that at all when smelling the dried hops?

Another possibility might be oxidation. I've occasionally picked up HINTS of pineapple along with sherry or cardboard notes in aged barleywines or other big beers. But those were just hints, not tasting like pineapple juice. Of course, sensitivity & perception levels of various flavor components vary with the taster. Wouldn't expect this though in a newly fermenting beer.

Another possibility is esters from the yeast. It'll be interesting to see if this flavor stays, develops further, or goes away as the fermentation & conditioning continue. What is the alcohol character like at this point?
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 10:02:13 AM »
I get a lot of pineapple from some Brettanomyces fermentations. Just something to think about, especially if the gravity keeps dropping.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 10:56:22 AM »
I get a lot of pineapple from some Brettanomyces fermentations. Just something to think about, especially if the gravity keeps dropping.

I did think about this when I was doing some research about this someone on another forum mentioned Brett C. I don't think i would mind if that is the case and it seems possible. the small beer is down to 1.002 at this point from 1.032. However I am not getting any pineapple from the small beer. It tastes bready and grainy no pineapple. I am leaning towards the hops at this point but either way it's facinating!

**EDIT** so I went and sniffed the 2 oz of Ivanhoe that I have left for dry hopping and there is a noticeable pineapple character once your nose gets past the strong hop character.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 12:08:36 PM »

**EDIT** so I went and sniffed the 2 oz of Ivanhoe that I have left for dry hopping and there is a noticeable pineapple character once your nose gets past the strong hop character.

well, there you are! though, as Buckeroo Banzai said, "Wherever you go, there you are." If you're detecting noticeable pineapple aroma in the hops themselves, ain't much doubt then.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 02:21:31 PM »

**EDIT** so I went and sniffed the 2 oz of Ivanhoe that I have left for dry hopping and there is a noticeable pineapple character once your nose gets past the strong hop character.

well, there you are! though, as Buckeroo Banzai said, "Wherever you go, there you are." If you're detecting noticeable pineapple aroma in the hops themselves, ain't much doubt then.

LOL I got freaked about a smell that came off a fermenter last year. ;D Turned out just fine.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2011, 02:46:55 PM »
well, there you are! though, as Buckeroo Banzai said, "Wherever you go, there you are."

First of all, it's Buckaroo Banzai, and the quote is, "No matter where you go, there you are."

Nothing personal; misquoting philosophy is just a pet peeve of mine.

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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 03:41:27 PM »
well, there you are! though, as Buckeroo Banzai said, "Wherever you go, there you are."

First of all, it's Buckaroo Banzai, and the quote is, "No matter where you go, there you are."

Nothing personal; misquoting philosophy is just a pet peeve of mine.

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Sean, well...... ooops. Put down the first error to my crappy typing/spelling and the second to too damn many years since I saw that movie.
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 04:58:59 PM »
Sorry, Mark, if that came off as at all serious. I was just trying to have a little fun and sneak in another BB reference or two.

If it can be expressed in *years* then it's definitely been too long. TAOBBATED is a once-a-month movie, minimum. ;)
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 06:03:07 AM »
no worries, and it's now in my netflix queue. but.... wouldn't that be TAOBBAT8D?  ;D
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 11:57:30 AM »
love that movie!   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NG8Ipk9CnU
What a cast!
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Re: Pineapple flavor
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 12:07:12 PM »
Did you ever notice that Perfect Tommy changes clothes twice during the closing credits?
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