Author Topic: Soon we can pack concealed  (Read 4797 times)

Offline nicneufeld

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1049
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2011, 09:32:10 AM »
I just realized, what is this thread missing?  BFI!   ;D  Break out the tacos and shurikens, boys!

Offline phillamb168

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2334
  • Lardy, France
    • View Profile
    • My Job
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2011, 09:33:26 AM »
I just realized, what is this thread missing?  BFI!   ;D  Break out the tacos and shurikens, boys!

BFI? http://www.bfi.org.uk/?
I'm on twitter: phillamb168
----
morticaixavier for governing committee!

Offline beersk

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1877
  • In the night!
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2011, 09:59:50 AM »
Hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself

--The great Lynyrd Skynrd


Been catching a few episodes of "Sons of Guns." When a couple comes into the gun shop for a handgun to use for home protection, the owner takes them on the range and shows them how most handgun confrontations occur: at very close range.  He then asks the question, "Are you prepared to take a life?"  The couple rethinks their purchase and leaves empty handed.  Point is, a handgun is a specific tool for a specific purpose, and owning/carrying one is a "yes" to the above question. LEOs and military are trained to shoot to kill for this reason.

Personally, I am on the fence with this.  Live in a rougher than most neighborhood with plenty of crime and occasionally ponder a Sig in the nightstand.  I just can't say yes to the question, so I stay on the fence.

Well, I train Ving Tsun Kung Fu and that's a specific tool for self defense and it's DEADLY.  One has to know how to use their self defense tools.  I don't like that one can just easily kill someone from a distance with a gun, it's cowardly, it's stupid.  Knowing how to use your gun should be mandatory and there should be no way around it.  It makes me sad that I train so hard with my kung fu that someone can just pull out a gun and shoot me.  Fight me with your hands, like a man...
Watch out for those Cross Dressing Amateurs!

Offline nicneufeld

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1049
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2011, 10:27:41 AM »
I don't like that one can just easily kill someone from a distance with a gun, it's cowardly, it's stupid.  Knowing how to use your gun should be mandatory and there should be no way around it.  It makes me sad that I train so hard with my kung fu that someone can just pull out a gun and shoot me.  Fight me with your hands, like a man...

You're this guy!   ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-afKCOZZc

Offline weithman5

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1668
  • naperville, il
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2011, 10:50:53 AM »
I think proper gun control, use, and marksmanship should be a high school gym class.  (taught by retired marine gunny's)
Don AHA member

Offline beersk

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1877
  • In the night!
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2011, 11:09:20 AM »
I don't like that one can just easily kill someone from a distance with a gun, it's cowardly, it's stupid.  Knowing how to use your gun should be mandatory and there should be no way around it.  It makes me sad that I train so hard with my kung fu that someone can just pull out a gun and shoot me.  Fight me with your hands, like a man...

You're this guy!   ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-afKCOZZc

Haha, I know, that's what I was thinking about as I was typing my post.  Not fair!
Watch out for those Cross Dressing Amateurs!

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 11654
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2011, 11:40:15 AM »
I think proper gun control, use, and marksmanship should be a high school gym class.  (taught by retired marine gunny's)

Except most high schools don't have gym class any more....
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

Offline nicneufeld

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1049
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2011, 12:18:52 PM »
I don't like that one can just easily kill someone from a distance with a gun, it's cowardly, it's stupid.  Knowing how to use your gun should be mandatory and there should be no way around it.  It makes me sad that I train so hard with my kung fu that someone can just pull out a gun and shoot me.  Fight me with your hands, like a man...

Another thought on this, bit of a rabbit trail, so forgive me.  I wonder if the great generals of the mid 20th century resented the invention of nuclear weapons in a unique way.  These generals had spent their lives refining tactics and strategy to a point of finesse, and their success on the battlefield was in large part attributed (rightly or wrongly) to their brilliance (think Rommel, Patton, Montgomery...).  Then comes the age of nuclear warfare, which makes the art of conventional warfare a side issue, the minor leagues, something for the major powers to fritter time away with in various hot spots, a diversion to the major event.  Funny thought.

Offline weithman5

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1668
  • naperville, il
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2011, 12:21:16 PM »

Except most high schools don't have gym class any more....

oh yeah, i forgot.  they can't even play dodge ball anymore.... :'(
Don AHA member

Offline MrNate

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 967
  • Bridgewater, NJ
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2011, 01:09:34 PM »
Speaking as someone who may or may not have observed every single little law on concealed carry in my younger days, I tend to agree with requiring permits and training requirements. To pretend there aren't young, stupid, testosterone-fueled idiots out there who would be ticking time bombs with no training or vetting is idiotic.

I'm a staunch 2nd amendment supporter, a civil disobedience advocate, and a Libertarian to boot, but something about this idea just doesn't sit right with me.
“If one's actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception.”

Offline weazletoe

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2132
  • Poca-hell-hole, Idaho
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2011, 02:01:06 PM »
I just realized, what is this thread missing?  BFI!   ;D  Break out the tacos and shurikens, boys!

  Maybe at the next AHA rally, he will teach a self defense class, where he can show us that move where you slap you opponent in the kidneys, making them wet themselves, leaving them to embarassed to mug you. None of us would CCW then.  ;D
A man works hard all week, so he doesn't have to wear pants all weekend.

Offline narvin

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1232
  • Baltimore
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2011, 02:21:17 PM »
I just realized, what is this thread missing?  BFI!   ;D  Break out the tacos and shurikens, boys!

  Maybe at the next AHA rally, he will teach a self defense class, where he can show us that move where you slap you opponent in the kidneys, making them wet themselves, leaving them to embarassed to mug you. None of us would CCW then.  ;D

http://www.hulu.com/watch/8721/napoleon-dynamite-rex-kwon-do-volunteer
Please do not reply if your an evil alien!
Thanks
Chris S.

Online Slowbrew

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1656
  • The Slowly Losing IT Brewery in Urbandale, IA
    • View Profile
Re: Soon we can pack concealed
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2011, 02:50:56 PM »

Except most high schools don't have gym class any more....

oh yeah, i forgot.  they can't even play dodge ball anymore.... :'(

Another topic I should just stay quiet on.  My son wishes gym was still required because some days you really need a class where "if you haven't cracked a rib by senior year, you ain't doing it right".

Paul
Where the heck are we going?  And what's with this hand basket?