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My LHBS employs a style nazi
« on: March 07, 2011, 11:50:43 AM »
I went into my LHBS last Saturday to make sure they had all the ingredient for my upcoming lagers.  Long story short, I showed one of the employees my list of ingredients for my O-fest recipe that I put a pound of home-toasted 2-row in, and Jamil's Schwarzbier recipe that calls for chocolate and crystal malts and tells me "You can't do that!" because stylistically it's wrong to put American w/ German ingredients in German beers.   :o  Needless to say, I was shocked.  I told him I thought that freedom was what this hobby was all about.  He goes on to say that it's ok for an amateur but If I were going to go "Pro" (Which I never will) I couldn't use these recipes.  I didn't question him about that remark but it begs the question.  Is he right on any level?  Do Breweries have to stay within a style / ingredient guidelines?
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 11:54:11 AM »
Tell him to STFU and let you spend your coin how you like it.

To answer the question is: no they don't.
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 11:54:12 AM »
WTF.

It's totally up to you what you want to brew. I agree. And even if you go Pro, it doesn't matter.

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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 11:55:48 AM »
Of course they don't, they can use whatever ingredients they like and call the beer whatever they want.  If it sells, it sells.  There are no style rules they need to follow.
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 12:01:13 PM »
As long as you pitch enough yeast and have proper control over your fermentation temps you should be free to do anything you want.  :D
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 12:09:06 PM »
Next time you go in there and he gives you crap about it ask him if beers styles are all set and stone and essentially "dead" of is it still evolving? How would we ever get a style like an American IPA or even a Belgian Tripel if we brewed with the exact same ingredients and techniques as someone two thousand miles away?
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 12:16:18 PM »
*sigh* I hate that sort of Homebrew shop employee. They really do a great job of ruining the hobby for so many people.

It's almost always the guy who's the "frustrated expert" type. Smart, but underachieving. For those hours they're at the shop though they can sound and feel like they're in the Royal Society and the customer a mere dumb petitioner. Even worse is the sort of aggressively volunteered "you're stupid" sort of advice that occurs with a regular basis.

The local shop employees can be a force for education and delight or a force for horrific soul crushing. The trick is to find the former and not the latter.

I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said "... I drank what?"
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 12:18:27 PM »
Good thing pro brewers don't listen to buffoons like this.
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 12:25:34 PM »
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said "... I drank what?"
What about that time you got caught naked with a bowl of jello?
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 12:36:11 PM »
I definitely wouldn't subject myself to a LHBS employee nor any other business employee to that type of treatment. I would complain to the store owner and if that didn't work I would probably take my business elsewhere.

That's BS.
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 12:37:32 PM »
Assuming you have an alternative, I'd take my business elsewhere and make sure his boss knows why.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to pull a pint of dry-hopped Helles to console myself over the fact that I'm apparently not a pro brewer.
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 01:14:47 PM »
Sorry, but that guy is a turd.  The best part about this hobby is experimentation and finding those ingredients/processes that make the best beer for YOUR taste.  Even in competitions beers win style categories using some non traditional ingredients.  I would have probably gotten into a bit of an argument at that store... ;)
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 01:28:42 PM »
What about that time you got caught naked with a bowl of jello?

Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 01:30:23 PM »
Tell him to STFU and let you spend your coin how you like it.

This. I'd also let him know that when I want his opinion, I'll give it to him.  8)
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Re: My LHBS employs a style nazi
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 01:35:23 PM »
What about that time you got caught naked with a bowl of jello?

Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?

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