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Rye Pale Ale clarity
« on: March 08, 2011, 02:41:18 AM »
Are Rye Pale Ales supposed to be clear, or cloudy like a Wheat Ale?

I just want to check myself. I am using 40% rye malt (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=5913.0 recipe) if that makes any difference.

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2011, 02:49:22 AM »
They can be cloudy like a wheat beer but will clarify over time. Although I've never used 40% rye before, but my bet is that it will be fairly cloudy.
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2011, 03:10:12 AM »
I did one that was almost 50% rye and it definitely had a cloudiness to it.
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2011, 03:21:38 AM »
Mine is definitely cloudy. My last batch didn't last long enough to see if it would clear, and I have a suspicion that this batch won't last any too long either.

Thanks for the input!
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2011, 04:04:41 AM »
Rye is loaded with protein which will haze a beer - let alone that you're using 40%.  That's awesome.  I've only gone as high as 30% Rye in a beer.

My standard Rye IPA is about 25% and can take 3+ weeks to clear in the keg but that's a long to ask that beer to stay around :)

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2011, 12:35:22 PM »
My 20% Rye IPA clears well in the keg, but it also has a lot to do with the yeast.  Thames Valley took forever to clear, but I've got a Belgian version using 1388 that has nice clarity.  If you were making a true Roggenbier, I'd think it would be very hazy.
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2011, 06:18:23 PM »
My 20% Rye IPA clears well in the keg, but it also has a lot to do with the yeast.  Thames Valley took forever to clear, but I've got a Belgian version using 1388 that has nice clarity.  If you were making a true Roggenbier, I'd think it would be very hazy.
Interesting.  I've brewed 20% rye IPAs with Thames Valley before and didn't have an issue with clarity.  Sure, it might not have been crystal clear, but they were clear.  Just takes a couple weeks.  But 40% rye in a beer, I wouldn't expect that to get too clear. 
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 08:21:35 PM »
hmmm - I've a Rye Ale in 2ndary now - only about 10% Rye malt - Its been 2 weeks now (and after two weeks in primary), and no signs of clearing - (I usually get some clearing at this point...).  I did forget the Irish Moss in this batch....

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 08:30:55 PM »
hmmm - I've a Rye Ale in 2ndary now - only about 10% Rye malt - Its been 2 weeks now (and after two weeks in primary), and no signs of clearing - (I usually get some clearing at this point...).  I did forget the Irish Moss in this batch....

10% really shouldn't have much effect on clarity.  What else is in your grain bill?
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 08:38:58 PM »
I usually use around 20% Rye Malt and have used up to 30% and it has always been clear out of the keg.
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 08:57:01 PM »
I have Denny's Rye IPA on tap right now.  It's not the clearest beer I've ever served but not the cloudiest either.  I don't think I should expect it to clear like my lighter ales.  The rye adds enough protean to cause a little haze.

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2011, 09:04:22 PM »
The forecast looks cloudy with a 100% chance of hops.  ;D I've used rye at pretty low percentage and noticed cloudiness.  The beer didn't last long enough to clear.  You can always do a beta-glucan and a higher protein rest if you're aiming for clarity or maybe gelatin.
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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2011, 09:35:20 PM »
I have Denny's Rye IPA on tap right now.  It's not the clearest beer I've ever served but not the cloudiest either.  I don't think I should expect it to clear like my lighter ales.  The rye adds enough protean to cause a little haze.

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 09:40:18 PM »
I have Denny's Rye IPA on tap right now.  It's not the clearest beer I've ever served but not the cloudiest either.  I don't think I should expect it to clear like my lighter ales.  The rye adds enough protean to cause a little haze.

Paul

After a month or so at cold temps, mine ends up crystal clear.

I'll take your word for it.  It has never lasted that long on tap in my house.   8)

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Re: Rye Pale Ale clarity
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2011, 09:44:28 PM »
Rye malt has proven itself in my brewery to produce as cloudy of wort as unmalted wheat. I just expect every rye ale to be cloudy unless aggressively fined and given some serious cold time.