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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #120 on: March 17, 2011, 07:18:59 pm »
i was going through nuclear prototype in idaho when chernobyl happened.  i had been out at the site for a week prior to my final boards.  i had heard no news about chernobyl.  the first question i was asked was to describe chernobyl and discuss the safety benefits of our (navy) design.  my answer "what is chernobyl?"
And?!  You left out the best part, their response!
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #121 on: March 17, 2011, 07:33:58 pm »
Not all of the stories coming out of Japan are about human tragedy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/dog-in-japan-stays-by-the-side-of-its-ailing-friend-in-the-rubble

Being a dog owner/lover...that's an amazing video. I hope those dogs were taken care of...

Thanks for posting that...
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #122 on: March 17, 2011, 07:44:19 pm »
Not all of the stories coming out of Japan are about human tragedy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/dog-in-japan-stays-by-the-side-of-its-ailing-friend-in-the-rubble

Being a dog owner/lover...that's an amazing video. I hope those dogs were taken care of...

Thanks for posting that...


If you read down there is an update telling that they were rescued and how they are doing. 

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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #123 on: March 18, 2011, 04:41:06 am »
Sean,
I used to mine Uranium underground. I worked in quite a lot of radon, and had to be put on the
surface a couple times to "cool" off.  What irks me is that we used RADs and now we are using
a total different scale and that just keeps me learning I guess.....just when I thought I could
shift part of my brain into neutral....(yeah right).  Then last year I recieved a week of elective
(yes I asked for it)  IMRT  treatment for Dupuytren's contracture, I have had my fair share of
exposure and just want to keep up with these current events.  I make all my x-ray doctors dig
out the thyroid collar now even the Dentist.  

Oh the things we did underground in that mine.... ::)
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #124 on: March 18, 2011, 05:09:45 am »
Radiation has gone metric I'm afraid...
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2011, 05:26:32 am »
Euge,
A lot of those guys I worked with are not around now....It does not matter how you go,
metric, SAE, you do just Go .....
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2011, 05:45:35 am »
Euge,
A lot of those guys I worked with are not around now....It does not matter how you go,
metric, SAE, you do just Go .....

Yup and a old tech told me we live 10 years shorter on average- usually to cancer. I put that thyroid shield on at a minimum and sometime I wear lead the entire shift. Have leaded glasses for intensive cases where my face will be in a high scatter zone. The scary thing is one doesn't feel anything at the time.

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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2011, 06:00:28 am »
The scary thing is one doesn't feel anything at the time.

When I was 17 I worked in a university lab trying to study how to improve the survivability of robotic mechanisms in a meltdown situation. Lots of Cobalt and  Cesium testing. The one thing that wigged me out was having to put on my tags every morning and knowing that due to the reduced exposure level allowed for those under 18 there was one room in the lab that I wasn't allowed to walk by if the doors were open.

Radiation is spooky.

Of course, the thing that cracked me up was the fact that the research reactor was less than 100 yards from the massive student union. :)
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2011, 08:49:03 am »
This is interesting:

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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2011, 09:13:26 am »
This is interesting:

        Ex-rad

I didn't see anything in there talking about what it actually does and I'm always a bit skeptical of write-ups like that.
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2011, 09:49:23 am »
This is interesting:

        Ex-rad

I didn't see anything in there talking about what it actually does and I'm always a bit skeptical of write-ups like that.
Me too.

Here are some articles:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=ex-rad

I have access to at least one full paper, but haven't read it.
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2011, 01:06:13 pm »
Sean,
I used to mine Uranium underground. I worked in quite a lot of radon, and had to be put on the
surface a couple times to "cool" off.  What irks me is that we used RADs and now we are using
a total different scale and that just keeps me learning I guess.....just when I thought I could
shift part of my brain into neutral....(yeah right).  Then last year I recieved a week of elective
(yes I asked for it)  IMRT  treatment for Dupuytren's contracture, I have had my fair share of
exposure and just want to keep up with these current events.  I make all my x-ray doctors dig
out the thyroid collar now even the Dentist.  

Oh the things we did underground in that mine.... ::)

I have Dupuytran's contracture.  I can't straighten my left pinky past about 110 degrees, but I've been lead to believe it's genetic, something about Norwegian ancestry. 
What did IMRT do for it?
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #132 on: March 18, 2011, 02:02:05 pm »
Japan today raised the threat level for the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant from a 4 to 5 -- putting it on par with the 1979 crisis at Pennsylvania's Three Mile Island.

Which doesn't surprise me from all the reports that we've been getting.
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #133 on: March 18, 2011, 02:25:32 pm »
I used to mine Uranium underground. I worked in quite a lot of radon, and had to be put on the surface a couple times to "cool" off.  What irks me is that we used RADs and now we are using a total different scale and that just keeps me learning I guess...

Yeah, I don't have much of an intuitive sense for sieverts either. Fortunately the conversion factor's easy: 1 Sv = 100 rem. AFAIK the industry in the US has gone metric on everything else, but for some reason we're stuck on rem.

I have immense respect for you guys who knowingly dosed yourselves day after day. I've had to take exactly one decon shower (my lab partner dropped a sealed source and it broke open) and even through my dosimeter only picked up 20-25 mrem it was absolutely terrifying.

Japan today raised the threat level for the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant from a 4 to 5 -- putting it on par with the 1979 crisis at Pennsylvania's Three Mile Island.

Which doesn't surprise me from all the reports that we've been getting.

Me neither. The problem with the INES scale is that it stipulates "at least one death" for a level 4 accident and "multiple deaths" for a level 5. So while the radiation releases from this accident are many orders of magnitude higher than at TMI, it doesn't really fit neatly into the criteria. They're being very conservative with both the public evacuations and the worker dosage limits, and at this point I'm optimistic that once it's all said and done there won't be any radiation deaths.
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Re: Japan quake
« Reply #134 on: March 18, 2011, 02:32:25 pm »
Japan today raised the threat level for the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant from a 4 to 5 -- putting it on par with the 1979 crisis at Pennsylvania's Three Mile Island.

Which doesn't surprise me from all the reports that we've been getting.

Me neither. The problem with the INES scale is that it stipulates "at least one death" for a level 4 accident and "multiple deaths" for a level 5. So while the radiation releases from this accident are many orders of magnitude higher than at TMI, it doesn't really fit neatly into the criteria. They're being very conservative with both the public evacuations and the worker dosage limits, and at this point I'm optimistic that once it's all said and done there won't be any radiation deaths.

The scale is out of seven...right?

I am hoping you're right about the radiation deaths but then the concern becomes the after affects of all the exposure to radiation. (i.e. cancer, long term effects and the like).
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