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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 04:23:18 pm »
The feds, if it's the case that they don't like Eisbock, would take a dim view on your accident. (at least if you went and sold it to the public)
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 05:45:48 pm »
That's what I'm thinking too. :(

 They're first cousin to the IR$; got their own definitions.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 06:17:48 pm »
We're still waiting for our Brewers Notice, got the state and town taken care of already. We'll definitely talk to someone at the bureau and diligently research the federal and state statutes ... when that time comes. I just wanted to see what the good citizens of Forumland might know, kind of a pre-pre-preliminary step.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 06:43:49 pm »
There is, apparently, an article in the Winter 1995 issue of Zymurgy by Dennis Davison that covers this. I don't have access to the article and have not read it (and of course it is fairly dated at this point), but here is a quote I found on another forum.  I make no claim as to its accuracy.  Tracking down the article might be a good starting place.

"According to Bureauf of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms officials, the process of freezing beer and removing ice is called concentrating.  A brewer may not employ any process of concentration that separates alcohol spirits from any
fermented beverage, and since ice is being removed from beer, this concentration procedure is legal."

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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2011, 07:29:05 pm »
What would happen if you "accidentally" left it outside on a freezing night?

In the worst case you would lose your Brewers License and you would be out of business.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 02:11:37 am »
IIRC, there was an episode of Basic Brewing where they contacted the TTB to clarify on whether it was legal. They said it was fine as freeze concentration didn't fall under distilling...
« Last Edit: March 12, 2011, 02:13:14 am by chaz »

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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 02:54:21 am »
IIRC, there was an episode of Basic Brewing where they contacted the TTB to clarify on whether it was legal. They said it was fine as freeze concentration didn't fall under distilling...
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2011, 02:56:51 am »
IIRC, there was an episode of Basic Brewing where they contacted the TTB to clarify on whether it was legal. They said it was fine as freeze concentration didn't fall under distilling...

Good find, but if I had money on the line, I'd want someone legally liable for saying "yes".

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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2011, 09:16:43 am »
IIRC, there was an episode of Basic Brewing where they contacted the TTB to clarify on whether it was legal. They said it was fine as freeze concentration didn't fall under distilling...

Good find, but if I had money on the line, I'd want someone legally liable for saying "yes".

:)

I think we would all love to believe this to be the case but I'm hearing some news to the contrary. It's confusing.

http://beernews.org/2010/04/redhook-brewery-tempts-regulators-with-new-eisbock-28-beer/

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Ei9ZDH7VWBcJ:www.ttb.gov/press/fy09/press-release-samuel-adams-and-boston-beer.pdf+ttb+boston+beer&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbQXeAsw5g4AqLROPmFtTo4gKAzCKw
« Last Edit: March 12, 2011, 10:04:01 am by bluesman »
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2011, 09:46:09 am »
What are we looking for at beernews.org? The other link doesn't work for me.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2011, 09:47:53 am »
I "accidentally" turned my dispensing fridge down too low and wound up with an Ice PA once. Opps! :) Had to skim all that ice out and get rid of it! Wound up being pretty tasty.

Of course....I wasnt selling it to anyone.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2011, 10:05:10 am »
What are we looking for at beernews.org? The other link doesn't work for me.

Sorry for the bad links. I fixed it.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2011, 10:22:17 am »
Got 'em. Thanks.
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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 11:38:58 am »
Yes, we're in Taos, NM, probably under two months now from opening. We'll be right across the street from the Post Office and Michael's Kitchen, just north of the plaza. Pop in and say hi if you're up here!

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Re: Legality of brewing eisbier
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 12:09:24 pm »
Yes, we're in Taos, NM, probably under two months now from opening. We'll be right across the street from the Post Office and Michael's Kitchen, just north of the plaza. Pop in and say hi if you're up here!

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